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Editing Etiquette

Postby CBenson » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:34 pm

Are there any guidelines for editing etiquette?
A current peeve of mine is the deletion of other peoples work without any communication. Even if the edits are wrong, it seems to me that basic etiquette would require that you attempt to contact someone before deleting their work. Deletion is a particular problem because there may no way for the other editor to know who made the deletions.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:10 pm

That depends on what's being deleted, sometimes. If I find one parking lot all strung out on massive doses of everyaisle, but no other evidence of that editor doing the same all around, I'll think it a 1-off. However, if I find several instances, or lots of red roads, I will compose a PM.

In general, though, yes, a direct contact would be appropriate etiquette. I look forward to being able to do this within the editor and not via PM in the forums.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby Dennis_Halmstad » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:13 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:In general, though, yes, a direct contact would be appropriate etiquette. I look forward to being able to do this within the editor and not via PM in the forums.

Is this a feature that will be implemented?
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:20 pm

Dennis_Halmstad wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:In general, though, yes, a direct contact would be appropriate etiquette. I look forward to being able to do this within the editor and not via PM in the forums.

Is this a feature that will be implemented?

I can't answer that. But it is, or has been, on the roadmap. Or, well, it has been discussed and Waze appears to know it is an important part of community.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby CBenson » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:28 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:If I find one parking lot all strung out on massive doses of everyaisle, but no other evidence of that editor doing the same all around, I'll think it a 1-off.

Well, I guess I would simply urge editors to go ahead and send the PM even in this circumstance. As the map gets more complete and there are more and more users, adding parking lot lanes and landmarks are going to be precisely the types of edits that I would expect to see from those new to waze (especially as there are more and more locks on the existing roads). I really think the better experience is to get the PM from the experienced editor that has noticed your parking lot work (even if it explains why it is unnecessary and detrimental) rather than simply see the work disappear with no trace.

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:In general, though, yes, a direct contact would be appropriate etiquette. I look forward to being able to do this within the editor and not via PM in the forums.

That and map annotations would both be godsends.
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Re: Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby cherianchris » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:41 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:That depends on what's being deleted, sometimes. If I find one parking lot all strung out on massive doses of everyaisle, but no other evidence of that editor doing the same all around, I'll think it a 1-off. However, if I find several instances, or lots of red roads, I will compose a PM.

In general, though, yes, a direct contact would be appropriate etiquette. I look forward to being able to do this within the editor and not via PM in the forums.

, I agree with Alan. Whenever I come across a particular user maintaining a pattern of erroneous editing, then I point him to the Map Editing Wiki.

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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby Kuhlkatz » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:56 pm

Send the PM, but you might as well clean up while in the area.
By the time you cleaned up 40 other similar areas, chances are good that your first PM will still be rotting in your outbox.
At least when the user gets it 10 years from now, he/she would know why you cleaned up the parking lot where that new Casino is now located.

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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby CBenson » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:47 pm

Kuhlkatz wrote:Send the PM, but you might as well clean up while in the area.

Agreed, I'm advocating the communication.
Kuhlkatz wrote:By the time you cleaned up 40 other similar areas, chances are good that your first PM will still be rotting in your outbox.
At least when the user gets it 10 years from now, he/she would know why you cleaned up the parking lot where that new Casino is now located.

My experience is that the majority of my PMs are acknowledged.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:56 pm

Oh, and if I send you a PM to let you know of something I plan on deleting, such as parking lot spam, and then, after you read my PM you continue to do the same thing, I will delete it all again in the future without sending a PM. I'll likely contact Waze to send you an official notice, though.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby Daknife » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:30 pm

CBenson wrote:
Kuhlkatz wrote:Send the PM, but you might as well clean up while in the area.

Agreed, I'm advocating the communication.
Kuhlkatz wrote:By the time you cleaned up 40 other similar areas, chances are good that your first PM will still be rotting in your outbox.
At least when the user gets it 10 years from now, he/she would know why you cleaned up the parking lot where that new Casino is now located.

My experience is that the majority of my PMs are acknowledged.

My experience is just the opposite. To the point where this thread has reminded me I've been getting lax on such notifications, as the near total lack of responses (or changes in behavior) has lead to me often not bothering. When I know I should keep bothering.

I like that anyone can edit, but wish they'd at least have to log into the forums at least once to activate the ability, just so they know it's even there. That and it seems like many users, are using throw-away email addy's that they never check.
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