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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby CBenson » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:13 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Oh, and if I send you a PM to let you know of something I plan on deleting, such as parking lot spam, and then, after you read my PM you continue to do the same thing, I will delete it all again in the future without sending a PM. I'll likely contact Waze to send you an official notice, though.

That seems perfectly reasonable. I've been known to send a PM saying I have deleted something and explaining why with a link to the wiki. Fortunately I've never dealt with the persistent incalcitrant editor yet. Maybe that's why I'm pro PM.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby tonestertm » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:32 am

Is there even a way to communicate with editors who don't appear to frequent the forum? I've spent a couple of hours cleaning up things like fully labeled parking lot roads (and I mean FULLY labeled; major mess in the client...), landmarked ATMs that are about 8 feet by 15 feet --and more-- and just ran into an intersection that was recently mis-modified (IMHO) all by the same user. He/she/it doesn't have any posts here in any forum and I wonder if there's a way to encourage (them) to look over the best editing practices, etc.

Yes, I'm pretty n00b, but I've spent a ton of time reading Wikis, forums and trying to get the lay of the land before doing much actual work on the map ( except for, maybe, my first couple of edits, which I promptly returned and corrected.... :oops: )

The intro video is all well and good, but it seems like it would be good to somehow put a little more emphasis on going through the wikis and at least acknowledging there's a forum here before people can start messing with the map? Speaking from personal experience here, I wouldn't have minded. And if you're not willing to take the time to learn the right way(s) to do things, should you really be messing with things that potentially impact many, many other users?
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby jondrush » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:37 am

I guess it depends on how cranky I am feeling that day. I also tend to segregate those who pay attention to detail. Those folks, I hope are redeemable.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby Daknife » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:30 pm

CBenson wrote:
Kuhlkatz wrote:Send the PM, but you might as well clean up while in the area.

Agreed, I'm advocating the communication.
Kuhlkatz wrote:By the time you cleaned up 40 other similar areas, chances are good that your first PM will still be rotting in your outbox.
At least when the user gets it 10 years from now, he/she would know why you cleaned up the parking lot where that new Casino is now located.

My experience is that the majority of my PMs are acknowledged.

My experience is just the opposite. To the point where this thread has reminded me I've been getting lax on such notifications, as the near total lack of responses (or changes in behavior) has lead to me often not bothering. When I know I should keep bothering.

I like that anyone can edit, but wish they'd at least have to log into the forums at least once to activate the ability, just so they know it's even there. That and it seems like many users, are using throw-away email addy's that they never check.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:56 pm

Oh, and if I send you a PM to let you know of something I plan on deleting, such as parking lot spam, and then, after you read my PM you continue to do the same thing, I will delete it all again in the future without sending a PM. I'll likely contact Waze to send you an official notice, though.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby CBenson » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:47 pm

Kuhlkatz wrote:Send the PM, but you might as well clean up while in the area.

Agreed, I'm advocating the communication.
Kuhlkatz wrote:By the time you cleaned up 40 other similar areas, chances are good that your first PM will still be rotting in your outbox.
At least when the user gets it 10 years from now, he/she would know why you cleaned up the parking lot where that new Casino is now located.

My experience is that the majority of my PMs are acknowledged.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby Kuhlkatz » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:56 pm

Send the PM, but you might as well clean up while in the area.
By the time you cleaned up 40 other similar areas, chances are good that your first PM will still be rotting in your outbox.
At least when the user gets it 10 years from now, he/she would know why you cleaned up the parking lot where that new Casino is now located.

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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby CBenson » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:28 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:If I find one parking lot all strung out on massive doses of everyaisle, but no other evidence of that editor doing the same all around, I'll think it a 1-off.

Well, I guess I would simply urge editors to go ahead and send the PM even in this circumstance. As the map gets more complete and there are more and more users, adding parking lot lanes and landmarks are going to be precisely the types of edits that I would expect to see from those new to waze (especially as there are more and more locks on the existing roads). I really think the better experience is to get the PM from the experienced editor that has noticed your parking lot work (even if it explains why it is unnecessary and detrimental) rather than simply see the work disappear with no trace.

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:In general, though, yes, a direct contact would be appropriate etiquette. I look forward to being able to do this within the editor and not via PM in the forums.

That and map annotations would both be godsends.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:20 pm

Dennis_Halmstad wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:In general, though, yes, a direct contact would be appropriate etiquette. I look forward to being able to do this within the editor and not via PM in the forums.

Is this a feature that will be implemented?

I can't answer that. But it is, or has been, on the roadmap. Or, well, it has been discussed and Waze appears to know it is an important part of community.
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Re: Editing Etiquette

Postby Dennis_Halmstad » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:13 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:In general, though, yes, a direct contact would be appropriate etiquette. I look forward to being able to do this within the editor and not via PM in the forums.

Is this a feature that will be implemented?
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