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Re: Paving by Air

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:17 am

TruckOttr wrote:Yep. This was definitely just to get points. It wasn't an "oops I left Waze on by accident."

And yes, this user is a "high scorer".

You can either open a ticket or let a Waze Champ know.
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Re: Paving by Air

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:04 am

harling wrote:You'd think Waze would look at the vehicle speed, and award negative points for paving above a certain (undisclosed) threshold, say 100mph.

I've/We've suggested a combination of altitude and speed as criteria for discarding this data.

And when done repeatedly, disable the user's account. :)
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Re: Paving by Air

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:32 am

This user has already been dealt with. Rank is permanently set to zero.
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Re: Paving by Air

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:16 pm

AndyPoms wrote:I was thinking about this and remembered that in the US, both the FCC & the FAA prohibit use of "cellular devices" during flight (http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-devices-airplanes & http://faa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/262), so even though it may not be a TOS violation, it is a violation of federal regulations. He & his lawyers can have fun with that one...

Assuming this was a commercial aircraft.
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Re: Paving by Air

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:35 am

And the TOS doesn't specify that anyone is due to "earn points" for any reason at all either.
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Re: Paving by Air

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:46 am

TruckOttr wrote:And for the rest of the story as a famous commentator once used to say.

Here's the reply I got from the air paver. I deleted the user's name...


All that needs to get forwarded on to Ori (username: Unholy)...
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Re: Paving by Air

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:30 pm

I was thinking about this and remembered that in the US, both the FCC & the FAA prohibit use of "cellular devices" during flight (http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-devices-airplanes & http://faa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/262), so even though it may not be a TOS violation, it is a violation of federal regulations. He & his lawyers can have fun with that one...
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Re: Paving by Air

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:24 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
AndyPoms wrote:I was thinking about this and remembered that in the US, both the FCC & the FAA prohibit use of "cellular devices" during flight (http://www.fcc.gov/guides/wireless-devices-airplanes & http://faa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/262), so even though it may not be a TOS violation, it is a violation of federal regulations. He & his lawyers can have fun with that one...

Assuming this was a commercial aircraft.

When the Mythbusters took this on with a private aircraft, they couldn't go airborne with the experiment due to these rules...
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Paving by Air

Postby banished » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:00 am

I often wonder how new users climb up the ranks so quickly. I guess flying in paving mode could do it. It isn't the points that bothers me as much as the user not gaining any real editing experience through points not legitimately earned. An inexperienced user with a lot of points is dangerous.
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Re: Paving by Air

Postby banished » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:47 pm

TruckOttr wrote:None of us are doing map editing for altruistic purposes. It is a game, for the points.


That's the part of the response I found most interesting. My editing interest is neither the points (fun, but not necessary) or at all altruistic. It's more a selfish motivation (tip of the hat to Ayn Rand). I want a GPS that is accurate and consistent and I'm willing to expend the effort to get it. If my effort benefits anyone else, so much the better.

So thank you to all of you whose efforts have made Waze better for me. :)
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