Changes to Editor - New Automatic Detected Problem

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Re: Changes to Editor - New Automatic Detected Problem

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:56 pm

shawndoc wrote:You are assuming they'll get backed up there, vs saying "This won't work" and making a right turn causing this error to be generated.

If it's a dangerous or unadvisable turn, that suggests this is due to lots of traffic you are trying to cross. You mentioned "4-6 lanes" before, so yes, I assume this means the driver may be waiting for a good length of time before being able to cross safely.
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Re: Changes to Editor - New Automatic Detected Problem

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:33 pm

shawndoc wrote:These aren't time restricted turns. They're perfectly legal instructions, just hard to follow. My preference would be to close these as solved and not change anything, however I feel we may need to put something in the Wiki to refer new users to. I expect with this new auto-generated problem we'll find a lot of legal turns restricted in order to "solve" the problems.

Ah, I over-analyzed. :)

If Wazers continually get stuck in the back-ups waiting a long time to make a difficult turn, then Waze will eventually have that data and be less likely to give that turn instruction at the times of day where it finds traversing that segment-to-segment pair is very slow. I say let the data do the work.
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Re: Changes to Editor - New Automatic Detected Problem

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:21 pm

shawndoc wrote:This brings up an age old question: How to handle left turns that may be difficult/impossible at certain times of the day?

This new map problem doesn't change the guidance for handling time-based restricted turns. What it does do is perhaps identify these in the editor as a system-detected problem rather than a user-submitted problem.

There is discussion right now in another thread(s?) about changing the recommendation on how to handle restricted turns. The last I read was some more folks leaning towards restricting across the board rather than doing any kind of time-based volume-affeted analysis and picking the one which impacts majority traffic flow the least.
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Re: Changes to Editor - New Automatic Detected Problem

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:45 pm

The new problem has been documented in the wiki for a few weeks now.

And yes, the ones we find on the map now are likely to be fairly old issues. When first released to test, I did find several which were helpful in finding incorrect turn restrictions.
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