This off-and-on isn't difficult at all

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Re: This off-and-on isn't difficult at all

Postby khaytsus » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:37 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:There's a few overlapping ramp segments here (to the west) which seem to be the antithesis of simplified mapping. Why can't they be combined instead of being stacked? Does it have to do with which lane you are coming in on?

Alan,

From my suggestion, the attempt was to prevent Waze from routing users to the slip road then back onto the interstate. I had a case of this in Louisivlle, KY that I kept getting UR's on and I made some adjustments. I had to make some parallel stuff but not as extensively as the one he made.

He hasn't responded yet, so I think I'm going to take a shot at some of the stuff I saw and go over it, as I think it's a bit broken right now, I just had no time to look into it more yesterday.

I've edited, I think it's right, but there's no (sane) way to completely isolate everything here. I really hate these sliproad configurations, they're difficult to fix with additional roads and connectors... Is there ever a valid case of Freeway I5 to ramp to ramp2 to rampN to Freeway I5 is valid? Two different freeways, yes.
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Re: This off-and-on isn't difficult at all

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:10 pm

There's a few overlapping ramp segments here (to the west) which seem to be the antithesis of simplified mapping. Why can't they be combined instead of being stacked? Does it have to do with which lane you are coming in on?
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Re: This off-and-on isn't difficult at all

Postby khaytsus » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:06 pm

https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-122.4 ... s=70478149

What in the world is this segment? :) Might recheck this right here, something odd going on.

Not sure this is really connected?

https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-122.4 ... TTTFTTTTFT

I didn't trace it out yet, just looking at the basics of what you did. :)
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Re: This off-and-on isn't difficult at all

Postby skbun » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:28 pm

khaytsus wrote:If it's a real problem, you could work here:

https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-122.4 ... s=54304608

And make sure that this ONLY connects where it's supposed to, and of course make sure other roads work as well. I did this in Louisville on one section that persistently had users going off onto a side ramp and then back onto the interstate. I made it so the ramps ONLY went where they were supposed to, and not back to the interstate, with a bit of extra connection ramps and a parallel path or so.

Here's how I did it there, maybe a similar approach will work for you. Be careful, and trace the paths to make sure you get it right! :)

https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-85.72 ... s=69318623


Oyyyye. Well. I think it's a done deal. Feel free to check my work if you're curious! I had to do two close-in bowties on the slip roads, two long lengths of parallel road, and found a place where the Interstate itself had a turn restriction. FUN! :D (And it only took about an hour and a half!) It's locked down at (3), has no turn restrictions, and should look fairly transparent to a client user - while preventing off and ons with parking lot segments.

I can't really prevent the going all the way down I-705 and back again (the cyan route shown earlier) if Waze REALLY decides that's what it has to do, but there's only so much I _can_ do. The purple routing should be dead and gone, and it appears 'direct on I-5' was borked by a turn restriction in the first place.
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Re: This off-and-on isn't difficult at all

Postby khaytsus » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:11 pm

If it's a real problem, you could work here:

https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-122.4 ... s=54304608

And make sure that this ONLY connects where it's supposed to, and of course make sure other roads work as well. I did this in Louisville on one section that persistently had users going off onto a side ramp and then back onto the interstate. I made it so the ramps ONLY went where they were supposed to, and not back to the interstate, with a bit of extra connection ramps and a parallel path or so.

Here's how I did it there, maybe a similar approach will work for you. Be careful, and trace the paths to make sure you get it right! :)

https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-85.72 ... s=69318623
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Re: Re: This off-and-on isn't difficult at all

Postby skbun » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:12 am

CBenson wrote:I'm surprised drivers coming from I-5 N get any instruction at all there. I would have thought that continuing on the ramp type segments would make that route the best continuation and you wouldn't get an instruction.


Misspoke that. Right distance on the split, but should be 'no instruction on that particular route' straight.

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