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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby gettingthere » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:32 am

Sure, look here to see if this is already suggested (I am sure it is) and vote for it:

http://waze.uservoice.com/forums/59223- ... our-phone-

or

http://waze.uservoice.com/forums/59225- ... om-website
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby meredith » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:52 am

gettingthere wrote:Unfortunately HOV lane restrictions, time of day restrictions, person count, and toll roads are not supported presently in Waze.

Basically no option to allow routing onto the road in question during certain hours only.

Right, hence my phrasing of "suggestion" - if it were currently supported, I wouldn't be suggesting it!
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby meredith » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:50 am

Hey, I am just trying to determine if this is the right place for my suggestion.

I-66 in northern Virginia is completely HOV restricted during rush hour between the Beltway (I-495) and downtown DC. In the morning, it is restricted eastbound to HOV-2 only (6:30-9am). In the evening, the HOV-2 restriction goes westbound (4-6:30pm).

It would be nice if we could tell waze whether we qualify for HOV or not. I often have to seek another route because it tries to send me to/from work on 66 when I do not qualify. Note that this is not a separate lane - all of I-66 becomes HOV-only, you have to take a different road if you are a solo driver.
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:41 pm

KevinFink wrote:It's a little tricky to see as the aerial photography is out of date, but essentially the 128th entrance/exit to I-405 is HOV-only. I changed the off-ramp from NB I-405 to a Parking Lot Road. However, the current map shows 128th as intersecting with the HOV lanes rather than having entrances/exits, so I changed that segment of 128th to Parking Lot Road. What I don't remember is whether non-HOV traffic can cross 405 using 128th - I don't think so, but if they can then the roads need to be more fundamentally altered.

I believe it does intersect, unless this has been totally redesigned again. According to Google:
  1. The ramp is bus and HOV only.
  2. The intersection is elevated.
I think most of what you have is proper, except:
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby KevinFink » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:50 pm

I live in the Seattle area and have been dealing with the simpler update requests. I ran into one set of ramps that hadn't been fixed while driving yesterday, and fixed them just now. If you have a second you might make sure what I did was correct. It's a little tricky to see as the aerial photography is out of date, but essentially the 128th entrance/exit to I-405 is HOV-only. I changed the off-ramp from NB I-405 to a Parking Lot Road. However, the current map shows 128th as intersecting with the HOV lanes rather than having entrances/exits, so I changed that segment of 128th to Parking Lot Road. What I don't remember is whether non-HOV traffic can cross 405 using 128th - I don't think so, but if they can then the roads need to be more fundamentally altered.

Here's the PermaLink:

https://descartes.waze.com/live/?zoom=6 ... TTTTTTTTTT
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:29 pm

hvbeg wrote:Thanks for the fix, Alan!

You're welcome. I'm glad it seems to be working out so far. Seattle definitely has the most complex freeway/ramps structure I've had to work with so far, and not being a native to the area, working with aerials and GPS tracks only can be challenging, especially due to the number of stacked and underground roadways.

Whenever you have a problem or feel a road is missing or set incorrectly, you can always submit an update request from the client. I am slowly cleaning out the Seattle area update requests and I should be able to get to them within a week or so. If something lags too long, you can always PM me here, or send me an email. I have my prefs set to allow my email to be seen, but not sure if it displays or not.
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby hvbeg » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:37 pm

Thanks for the fix, Alan! I haven't gotten any express lane routing in the last few days, and I was very excited during yesterday afternoon's commute when Waze routed me off I-90 for a couple of miles because the surface streets were moving faster. As it should be. :D Fixing the express lanes seems to have opened up lots of new routing options--I appreciate your work!
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:25 pm

I have gone through Seattle and set all Express Lane segments for I-5 and I-90 to No Entrance. All on-ramps and most off-ramps from the Express Lane are set to Parking Lot road type. I also fixed several segments which J3rdo (or similar name) had improperly set the express lane to parking lot road type.

Within 5-7 days, I hope this will be live in the client. Routing will force a tile refresh on the client if the route goes through the tile. Otherwise, you can choose to Refresh Map from Data usage settings if you are using a client which supports that.
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:15 pm

hvbeg wrote:No, sorry I wasn't clear--it did route me to the express lanes initially. I picked an alternate route that didn't include the express lanes, but when the GPS lost connection and recalculated (which happened while I was still on surface streets), it sent me back to the original express-lanes route.

Understood.

hvbeg wrote:I'm getting routed to the express lanes on an almost daily basis, so I'm assuming either they haven't been updated as discussed here, or that map update hasn't made it to my phone yet.

I've been out of commission for most editing tasks for about 3 weeks and am just getting back into things, resolving a few update requests today. Seattle is on my mind. Unfortunately, the editor is being buggy this weekend, so things are going slower than normal.
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Re: Express/Time restricted Lanes: map them or not? and opti

Postby hvbeg » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:00 pm

It will take time to change over I-90 and I-5 in Seattle to not route you there, but it sounds like that part already worked: it didn't route you there to begin with, right?


No, sorry I wasn't clear--it did route me to the express lanes initially. I picked an alternate route that didn't include the express lanes, but when the GPS lost connection and recalculated (which happened while I was still on surface streets), it sent me back to the original express-lanes route.

I'm getting routed to the express lanes on an almost daily basis, so I'm assuming either they haven't been updated as discussed here, or that map update hasn't made it to my phone yet.
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