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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:26 pm

tdsm wrote:Any news on this, guys?
Waze warning you about traffic jams ahead is great. Getting stuck in the city because of closed roads = :x :evil:

Nope. No new beta is out. I think it will be a while. It's likely the developers are working on the next map editor and then work on the app again. That's all conjecture as they don't usually tell us what's next.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby tdsm » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:10 pm

Any news on this, guys?
Waze warning you about traffic jams ahead is great. Getting stuck in the city because of closed roads = :x :evil:
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby WassupET » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:06 pm

Why minimize it to road closures, what about closed gas stations or restaurants! As for roads why not allow the user the option to include or exclude user generated closures or grant a trusted status as mentioned above. For emergencies and disasters like the hurricane this is an essential for people to get around safely and efficiently.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby ldimasi » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:48 pm

Caradellino wrote:
WeeeZer14 wrote:The saving grace for a malicious user reporting a freeway closed would have to be OTHER Wazers CURRENTLY on the same segment. Say 3 Wazers are driving on the Freeway around the same time and place (details of what is close enough time and distance wise would have to be determined). One reports road closed. The other two fly by at freeway speed like nothing is wrong. Waze could then ignore the report.

WeeeZer14, I think your concept is perfect for dense areas - as you state yourself
WeeeZer14 wrote:If there are enough Wazer's

But what if there are not - there has to be a way in removing erroneous (think positive ;) ) reports without being there or the need of going there.

Don't get me wrong, i second such a feature very much - but it has to be as fast as a report but stay there until terminated. :!:


Why not reserve the creation of a "road closed" sign to registered user with a minimum rank?

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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:36 pm

Caradellino wrote:
CrackedLCD wrote: it wouldn't even show up in the map since it's not updated but once in a blue moon

...therefore it has to be a client-based solution, i don't think, there's a way around it. Imagine the Fuel prices had to be managed via WME... :roll:

For now, yes. In the old days, we could get a map update about weekly, so planning closures was pretty easy from the mapping standpoint. Coming up, when Waze is able to get to twice weekly updates, map-based closures will again be fairly easy to accomplish and time it pretty close to the actual closure.

But, for unplanned events, client-side reporting is essential.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby Caradellino » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:29 pm

CrackedLCD wrote: it wouldn't even show up in the map since it's not updated but once in a blue moon

...therefore it has to be a client-based solution, i don't think, there's a way around it. Imagine the Fuel prices had to be managed via WME... :roll:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:We now need to find out what Waze plans to do with the "Road Closed" report type just added to the app in the iOS beta.

So maybe there is hope in this matter, think positive... :mrgreen:
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby CrackedLCD » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:47 am

Turn restrictions and disconnecting roads are all well and good if you're an area manager, but if the road is locked, I can't do jack. Bankhead Tunnel in Mobile, Alabama is closed this week for repairs, so it wouldn't even show up in the map since it's not updated but once in a blue moon. This is where that "road closed" alert would sure come in handy.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:21 pm

mouseRider wrote:Perhaps a COMMENT field in the Map Editor would be another great feature to have to allow contributors to attach a comment to certain changes.

The unpredictability of the LiveMap update schedule is probably the one thing that would toss a wrench into any effort to get the maps beneficially up-to-date with construction closures and even more so for short-term and very-short-term closures—All of which could be a great advantage to Wazers if they are accurately reflected in a timely manner.

Map editor annotations have been requested and Waze supposedly has it on the roadmap, but it's not going to happen soon. There is a 3rd party "solution" used by editors on the World server.

As of June, the LiveMap absolutely cannot be counted on. I found that it recently changed to show "9/3/2012" in my area, but it has roads showing at all zoom levels which I deleted back in early June. Only use the app to see what the current state of the map is.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby mouseRider » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:02 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:I usually do a disconnect or depending on the situation, just delete the road being changed especially if it is not going to exist in the future either. I don't rely on turn restrictions very often because they are not foolproof an Waze can and does route through them if it calculates a lower penalty for doing so.


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I just encountered this situation around Marshalls Creek, PA. Massive constructions in that area and two bridges were out and Waze was directing me to the first then to the second as a redirect.

I've since used turn-restrictions on both to reflect the construction as I'm not certain how long the work will be and hesitant to delete the closed segment.

Perhaps a COMMENT field in the Map Editor would be another great feature to have to allow contributors to attach a comment to certain changes.

The unpredictability of the LiveMap update schedule is probably the one thing that would toss a wrench into any effort to get the maps beneficially up-to-date with construction closures and even more so for short-term and very-short-term closures—All of which could be a great advantage to Wazers if they are accurately reflected in a timely manner.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:25 pm

We now need to find out what Waze plans to do with the "Road Closed" report type just added to the app in the iOS beta.
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