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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:22 pm

If they are long-terms closures, the roads can be disconnected in the editor. See the guidelines in the wiki for more, too.
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Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:42 pm

I usually do a disconnect or depending on the situation, just delete the road being changed especially if it is not going to exist in the future either. I don't rely on turn restrictions very often because they are not foolproof an Waze can and does route through them if it calculates a lower penalty for doing so.


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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:25 am

vnikolic wrote:A reporting option on the phone would be fantastic, rather than having to edit maps later on. This way anyone could report it, and Wase could reroute and recalculate routes accordingly.

I think this would be useful but there must be very strict controls around it. Can you imagine how much Waze would suck if just 1 or 2 people in a high volume freeway decide to post a road closed causing Waze to try to reroute people off the freeway for hours?
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:37 pm

WeeeZer14 wrote:If there are enough Wazer's, it shouldn't be an issue.

This and other things are what I meant by "there must be very strict controls."
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:25 pm

We now need to find out what Waze plans to do with the "Road Closed" report type just added to the app in the iOS beta.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:21 pm

mouseRider wrote:Perhaps a COMMENT field in the Map Editor would be another great feature to have to allow contributors to attach a comment to certain changes.

The unpredictability of the LiveMap update schedule is probably the one thing that would toss a wrench into any effort to get the maps beneficially up-to-date with construction closures and even more so for short-term and very-short-term closures—All of which could be a great advantage to Wazers if they are accurately reflected in a timely manner.

Map editor annotations have been requested and Waze supposedly has it on the roadmap, but it's not going to happen soon. There is a 3rd party "solution" used by editors on the World server.

As of June, the LiveMap absolutely cannot be counted on. I found that it recently changed to show "9/3/2012" in my area, but it has roads showing at all zoom levels which I deleted back in early June. Only use the app to see what the current state of the map is.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:36 pm

Caradellino wrote:
CrackedLCD wrote: it wouldn't even show up in the map since it's not updated but once in a blue moon

...therefore it has to be a client-based solution, i don't think, there's a way around it. Imagine the Fuel prices had to be managed via WME... :roll:

For now, yes. In the old days, we could get a map update about weekly, so planning closures was pretty easy from the mapping standpoint. Coming up, when Waze is able to get to twice weekly updates, map-based closures will again be fairly easy to accomplish and time it pretty close to the actual closure.

But, for unplanned events, client-side reporting is essential.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:26 pm

tdsm wrote:Any news on this, guys?
Waze warning you about traffic jams ahead is great. Getting stuck in the city because of closed roads = :x :evil:

Nope. No new beta is out. I think it will be a while. It's likely the developers are working on the next map editor and then work on the app again. That's all conjecture as they don't usually tell us what's next.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby Caradellino » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:15 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:If they are long-terms closures, the roads can be disconnected in the editor.

You could also change the turn-restrictions to exclude temporary closed roads froum routing.

But either disconecting or manipulating turn restictions...you'll have to wait for an update to get it into effect. So if a road ist closed for about a week you can't really do something in Waze (Alan, please correct me, if I'm wrong)

CrackedLCD wrote:I really hope the Waze crew can add that option at some point.

I absolutely agree and second your motion...
We had a long-term construction zone here in Vienna, Austria, with aditional speed cams and reduced speed limits - after its clearance the community had everything changed back to normal in aproximatly no time ;) ...
...still I am enjoying warnings for no more existing speedcams for about 2 weeks now because there was no update of the Livemap since.

Don't get me wrong, Waze has still the far fastest Updates, but as far as I see it: temporary road closures can't be dealt with in the moment.
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Re: Closed Road while Road works

Postby Caradellino » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:19 am

CBenson wrote:If waze can't tell when a high volume freeway isn't closed, there not using their data very well.

Not necessarily...as far as I see it Waze just tracks Wazers and not TMC. If the Wazers avoid a "closed" road, Waze won't notice any traffic - therefore how would they get the information? In other words there is no data to use in that matter.
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