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Re: Shields

Postby PhantomSoul » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:10 am

We have state route shields in the US right now, but only in limited form, requiring you to code the primary name of the segments using the specific phrase State Hwy followed by a word consisting of only numeric characters (such as 9, 27, or 184, but not 9w, for example).

The state route shields do not appear to work at all, for now, in states whose guidelines say state routes should be coded in any other way, such as the phrase State Rte, SR, or the 2-letter abbreviations for states. I am not sure if the alternate street names are searched at all for a shield-recognition pattern, but last I tested it a few months ago, the phrase State Hwy 27 encoded into an alternate name field did not result in a 27 being drawn with an oval shield.

Hopefully Waze will expand its shield pattern recognition to include these in the near future.
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Re: Shields

Postby PhantomSoul » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:28 pm

You know, the infamously decrepit Apple maps have state-specific shields. Also, internationally, they show route symbols that reflect the look of the actual marker used along the roadway. Just sayin'...

Traditional US cartography conventions suggest that the Interstate and US Highway shields are used for those routes, circle/oval shields are used for state routes, and rectangular shields are used for secondary local routes, such as county routes. In most places, this won't match up directly with the shape of the shields actually used by states on route markers, but the point is to make it clear that its a state route or local route.
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Re: Shields

Postby PhantomSoul » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:37 pm

I've noticed in New Jersey for the iPhone client, we get shields for some of the US routes that are labelled "US Hwy." Most of the state routes I've seen on the map do not produce shields as they seem to be labelled "State Rte" (instead of "State Hwy," maybe?). This is a problem because all numbered roads in New Jersey are referred to as "Routes" and not "Highways" and really should be reflected as such in any regionally savvy navigation system. This is because many of these routes are simply marked out over old, local urban roads and calling them highways misleadingly implies that they're some kind of fast way to get somewhere.

It seems also that, with divided roads, when we put the N, S, E, or W suffix in the name to indicate direction, the iPhone client does not produce a shield. Also, dual-signed roads: "I-95 / NJ Turnpike" does not produce a shield in the iPhone client as well.
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Re: Shields

Postby Panther37 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:54 pm

I'd be happy with SR-XXXX giving the default basic circle for all states. I could also make the graphic in both vector and bitmap. I could even make an elongated one for longer routes with three or more characters. (A1A or 28A for example)
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Re: Shields

Postby Panther37 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:14 am

Caradellino wrote:Hi guys!
Since yesterday (local time) I have my first shields running in Austria too, which is important for me that I can drive now with shields and not just watch them in Australia when scrolling the client ;)

So it's about time to increase integration of shields. What you might not know, is that the issue of having more than one shield at a time is rather critical in Europe: the European Highway grid is just kind of superimposed on existing national routes of the various european Nations. So almost every major freeway has at least two shielded designations. For we in Austria have already taken this into account when coding our street names we'd like to assist Waze in getting multiple shields.

I've given it some thought and came to the conclusion that multiple shields and further integration should be seen together, therefore I forwarded a suggestion to our community manager (For AU I have to share Amit with you, but for Austria I have lizcrime ;))

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Upper picture shows todays client display with the actual single shield and the bubbles. The major has not passed the pattern process yet and therefore still the complete street name in the bubble. The lower picture is, as we think it should be. As you can see, if a multiple shield (one shield looking like multiple shields) is generated in a side by side design, this could be used to fill the bubbles and the routing instructions. You might notice, I integrated your suggestion to let go of the hyphens - though I'm using Austria as an example and test area, I'm working on a common solution for all of us (that's the reason for this post here too)
Btw. this situation is real: we start from a freeway with two European Routes and have one leaving the freeway and following the major, while the other stays with the freeway. (a triple shield route splitting in two dual shield routes)

So how did you get this done? I'd like to to see Waze recognize at least SR-XXXX in the USA. Also I wish it would look into the alternate names for shields.
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Re: Shields

Postby Nacron » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:44 am

Any word on shields being added to future editors?
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Re: Shields

Postby n8nagel » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:03 pm

The circles already exist and are working in MD, but only for the "State Hwy xxx" verbiage, they apparently aren't tied to "State Rte xxx" or "SR-xxx".
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Re: Shields

Postby n8nagel » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:29 pm

I recently noticed that MD seems to have the state highway shields up and running, which led me to check out this topic and also look at some of the shielded roads appearing in my client in MD in WME to see how they were named.

It appears that the only place that the oval shield appears is if "State Hwy xxx" is the primary name. I didn't see any instances of "SH-xxx" so I don't know if that's working or not. When the name of the road is the primary name and "State Hwy xxx" is one of the alternate names, the client seems to use the primary name and not the shield. This may be useful to know in cases where the two names are used interchangeably with no clear preference for one or the other, and you want to force the client to display both the shield and the name, the only downside being that if you alternate segment names then "select entire street" won't work.

In VA, the convention seems to be State Rte xxx or SR-xxx and that isn't working, even if it's a primary name e.g. State Rte 28 N.

Since Virginia seems to be on a trend of going towards using numbers rather than road names (I doubt people moving to the area in the last 5 years or so even know that SR-28 has a name; it used to be Sully Road) I'd think that SR shields would go a long way toward making the map more easily readable. I was hoping that I'd get some insight from this thread so I could go back to the VA forum and try to get everyone to agree on a naming standard to make the shields work, but it looks like we're going to have to wait a while longer unless we want to go to calling everything "State Hwy" which seems wrong to me.

Just my observations...
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Re: Shields

Postby mapcat » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:07 am

txemt wrote:They're starting to appear where they weren't before. I have the first shield in San Antonio since I started using Waze, 3-4 months ago.

Well, if they can disappear without any of the programmers being able to explain it, it makes sense that the opposite would be true.
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Re: Shields

Postby Machete808 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:17 pm

sketch wrote:Short answer: Don't change the naming standard just to get shields to work.


In Hawaii we changed our naming syntax BACK to standard form, and the shields no longer display. Probably the fact that our freeways are different (H-X as opposed to I-X) complicates things.

Anyone know how to requisition a fix? Thanks!
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