How Was Waze Able to Give Directions With Mobile Data OFF?

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Re: How Was Waze Able to Give Directions With Mobile Data OF

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:46 pm

sejtam wrote:Could you explain why one would liar speed data w/o data? Speed is calculated from the GPS.

I think you mean traffic data, including speeds reported by other waze users

You are correct about traffic data. One thing scruffy151 is referring to is that you don't get the current traffic (speed) data for your route and you may get routed into very bad traffic. Also, the data from your drive, such as the speed you are going on streets and the time of day, which Waze normally collects while driving with a data connection, is not able to be uploaded to Waze to add to their data about the streets you drove on.
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Re: How Was Waze Able to Give Directions With Mobile Data OF

Postby iainhouse » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:55 pm

You're right about the tiles covering you route being cached. I saw a similar instance on Friday when my phone service provider was down for my drive home.

As far as knowing where you are, it uses GPS, not your data connection.

What Waze can't do is what it's best at - traffic. It won't know about the real-time traffic conditions and be able to estimate an ETA, re-route you or show & report alerts. If you divert off the given route, it may also run out of map

I believe the actual data usage during a drive is relatively small. You can see what's been used in a session by looking in Settings, Advanced, Data Usage.
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Re: How Was Waze Able to Give Directions With Mobile Data OF

Postby scruffy151 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:34 pm

You also loose all speed data without a data connection. This will get you some bad routes from time to time.
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Re: How Was Waze Able to Give Directions With Mobile Data OF

Postby scruffy151 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:31 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:You are correct about traffic data. One thing scruffy151 is referring to is that you don't get the current traffic (speed) data for your route and you may get routed into very bad traffic. Also, the data from your drive, such as the speed you are going on streets and the time of day, which Waze normally collects while driving with a data connection, is not able to be uploaded to Waze to add to their data about the streets you drove on.


I was actually meaning the lack of historical data; all roads revert to the default speed for that road type when there is no data connection. Of course everything Alan said is a consideration as well.
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Re: How Was Waze Able to Give Directions With Mobile Data OF

Postby sejtam » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:17 pm

Could you explain why one would liar speed data w/o data? Speed is calculated from the GPS.

I think you mean traffic data, including speeds reported by other waze users

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How Was Waze Able to Give Directions With Mobile Data OFF?

Postby The_Crusader » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:35 pm

This morning I started up the app and selected my route while still in the garage so I know the route info was downloaded via WiFi to my phone. By default, I always have Mobile Data turned OFF so I don't go over my allocation. I forgot to turn it on this morning before leaving for the store.

Even with Mobile Data turned OFF, Waze announced what streets to make a left or right on and announced when I had arrived at the grocery store.

I can understand the technology of my route being downloaded to the phone via the WiFi connection before pulling out of the garage, but how on earth does an app like Waze know when I am close to the street to turn on or when I have reached my destination if Mobile Data is OFF?

Before making my return trip home from the store, when opening the app, I saw the "red letter" announcement about how Mobile Data is OFF and I might not get accurate directions. I turned Mobile Data back ON to see what would be different on my way home, and really didn't much notice much difference except for beep alerts prior to the app announcing various things to me.

If this app can work adequately without turning on Mobile Data, that can save people data charges each month, but I'm just don't understand the technical aspects of the app and phone knowing where I am with Data OFF.

Best app out there, by the way, for maps and directions; I recommend it to everyone. Thanks for info on this topic so I can be educated further.
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Re: How Was Waze Able to Give Directions With Mobile Data OF

Postby The_Crusader » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:10 pm

Thanks; very helpful information! I wasn't sure if GPS was separate from mobile data. Now I know. I usually only go short distances; just testing out the app so I know what to do in case I have to go somewhere I don't know how to get there.

It works very well and despite complaints on line somewhere, I can run music (at least from my iPhone device storage) at the same time. Not sure how the Waze app fairs with streaming Spotify though (haven't tried that yet).

Good to know if I forget to turn on Mobile Data for short trips, I will get there just fine.
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