arthurohara wrote: <...> All I will say now is that a transport/logistics company is the main suspect. <...>
xteejx wrote: <... > without providing any real input to the map data other than forcing tile changes which aren't needed <...>
arthurohara wrote:Seems to me Waze turns a somewhat blinkered eye to cheaters, cheats and cheating generally. Maybe they are just collecting the evidence before they pounce on the cheater and banish him/her to the scrap yard crusher!
I do thankfully appreciate and see some actions been taken in the latest release but, its not enough.
It is obvious to a blind man that high scale cheating for points is going on! I give Waze the maximum of my spare time, when possible. I work hard at it! If I put in an extra long hard week on Waze, driving but mostly editing I see others tripling my weekly score in Ireland without been seen driving, editing or showing an appropriate return of work for the points they earn in a typical day and or week.
I think some people with a high degree of technical know-how can and do manipulate the Waze system!
I would like to see definitive Waze policy and actions taken to bar cheaters without recourse to appeal. Nothing good for Waze can come from a cheat.
Honesty is the best policy!
"Get the point not the points"
Tue 10 Jul 2012 1631 GMT Daylight Time Wk. 28.
.xteejx on Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:13 pm rightly states - "does nothing of any benefit to the map. It's a shame really"
llayden wrote:dmcconachie wrote:In /my/ humble opinion 100k, and even 70k, in one week is not possible if you are taking care with what you are doing, ensuring things are correct and not using other, copyrighted, sources!
Some of the top editors on here, and I don't mean by points, have been editing for a long long time and getting nowhere near scores like that. My highest ever weekly score is around 27k and involved editing for roughly 6 hours a day for 6/7 days! To suggest the effort I have put in over almost 2 years of dedication can be achieved in 6-10 weeks is nothing short of insulting.
I agree that 100k is unlikely to be legitimate. However, I have had to revise my suspicions as to what may be legitimate. I was a die-hard Cartouche editor until about a month ago. I noticed what was going on with points and did an experiment which I have told some of you about - basically I did a once off cheat of 20,000 edits (took about six hours to complete). This was worth 60,000 points. I told Waze exactly what I had done and the counter measures that would prevent it happening again. They have said that some of the counter measures will be introduced shortly. I also asked them to reduce my points - but they didn't. However after that, I switched to Papyrus and have been very surprised that without increasing my editing time, my points have substantially increased. I used to be good for 15-25k a week but am now hitting twice that per week - quite legitimately. However, its patchy. My impression is that when I'm concentrating on junctions, I score more than when I'm concentrating on naming things or drawing roads. For sure many things are faster in Papyrus but I also think its counting differently.
BTW I think that at the end of every month, everyone should lose 5% of their total points - give new entrants a chance to catch up - a discounted points flow?
Agamicox wrote:Good luck
Agamicox wrote:arthurohara wrote: <...> All I will say now is that a transport/logistics company is the main suspect. <...>
Just curious... What actions do they do to cheat?
I'm using Waze daily in my work and I am a Field Service Engineer. Not abusing Reports (often not even reporting at all, just letting Waze report traffic speed itself). Am I considered to be a bad person?xteejx wrote: <... > without providing any real input to the map data other than forcing tile changes which aren't needed <...>
What is that exactly? Just to know if I am not doing this thing by mistake too.
, could I add without actually doing anything to benefit the map and ultimately users.Making the tiniest of changes possible basically without actually *doing* anything, if that makes sense?
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