davidg666 wrote:[I plan to update some parts of the Ireland section of the wiki in the near future - but before I do that, I hope to discuss the changes first in case there's any disagreement, since some of the changes I propose haven't been covered before and I think different editors amongst have different ways of doing things]
First: naming cities, towns, villages and city suburbs:
Great idea! Thanks for setting these threads up David
My 2 cents:
In general, only assign a city name to road segments that are inside a city/town/village. Rural roads that are outside a city/town/village should have “None” checked, even if they are near (but not in) a city/town/village.
For large cities, divide into suburbs and give only the suburb name to streets in each suburb. Don’t make the city name part of the suburb name - so have (for example) “Clontarf”, not “Clontarf (Dublin)”
Agree, with exception you mentioned below of duplicate placenames like Blackrock in Cork and Dublin or Monkstown in Cork and Dublin. (e.g. Blackrock (Cork), as is currently the case)
Give a couple of streets in the exact centre of a city that has named suburbs the same name as that city so that city itself can be navigated to.
Agree, though the definition of a few will vary probably from city to city. (Again a Cork example as it is area I'm most familiar with: All of central island is labelled as "Cork" along with some nearby areas which aren't named in suburbs. In total this is quite a large area)
Where more than one city/town/village exists with the same name, give the unadorned name to the larger one, and append the county name in brackets to the smaller one. For example: “Dungarvan” and “Dungarvan (Kilkenny)”.
Only assign a city name to road segments within an actual city/town/village/suburb - rural roads should have “None” checked for the city name and not the townland name.
Agree in general, though I would also label a bypass road as being part of a city, even though it would not have buildings on it: i will elaborate a bit on this in the road names thread
When deciding if a small settlement is big enough to have a name, see if it’s got its own post office or if there are name signs on its approach roads. Use the name seen on these signs as the settlement name, and use the location of the sign as the edge of the named area.
Agree in principle, but there may be historical groupings of places where the post office or other official buildings have been closed in recent years. This will likely be a more rural issue. I know of three or 4 areas which are basically collections of townlands but there is no village per se: they were grouped as an entity, often centred on a particular crossroads. Kildinan in north east Cork is one such example, though I expect such situations are quite rare, maybe they should still be accommodated?
Great threads, hope discussion is lively!