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ROADWORKS: Newlands Cross / N7 in Dublin

Post by davidg666
Construction has started on the new flyover at Newlands Cross in Dublin where the N7 and R113 meet. I've already moved the southbound N7 lanes in the map to match the new lanes that were opened a few days ago. The area is visible in the editor here. There will be another change in about three weeks when the northbound N7 lanes are moved to make room for the construction of the new flyover bridge. Ultimately we'll have a bridge and slip lanes/ramps when it's all finished.

I've created a UR at that location to alert other editors to the changes in progress and to point them to the forum, and I've locked the road segments there at L5.

If anybody becomes aware of changes in the road layout that haven't made it to the map yet, or if you think we should handle this construction project differently, please discuss in this thread.

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Re: ROADWORKS: Newlands Cross / N7 in Dublin

Post by davidg666
I'd forgotten I'd created a thread to track these roadworks - I just came here to create one when I noticed the one I'd already created :)

Anyway, a conversation started last night on the UR itself about the roadworks, so I thought I'd move the conversation here in case the UR gets closed (somebody closed it once already) and we lost the conversation - so here it is:
UR description wrote:Problem: *** PLEASE DO NOT CLOSE THIS UR *** This UR is to mark the major roadworks during the Newlands Cross upgrade. The road segments are locked at L5 and no longer line up with the satellite images as they are being periodically moved as the roadworks progress.
Reported on: March 24
UR conversation wrote:arthurohara(5) on April 01, 2014
Could road segments not be aligned to GPS tracking and frequent field trips and thereby be kept up-to-date with progress as it develops, keeping Waze users informed? Changes can take less than 24 hours to update. We can move with the works me thinks!
Reporter on April 02, 2014
Hi Arthur; thanks for your remark. I do make regular field trips here, especially when the junction layout changes, and then align the road segments with the GPS track from my trip - so we are indeed moving with the works! We can't use the GPS layer in the editor because this is always several months out of date. The project also has news at http://www.n7n11.ie/n7-update/ . All comments welcome!
arthurohara(5) on April 02, 2014
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Hi Reporter,
Thank you! Can we take it the present Waze layout is as near as it can be to what the actual layout is? Brilliant if it is and kudos for taking on such a project! Should any segment locks be reduced or removed? Was sure GPS tracks updated more rapidly in the editor. Exciting because this work in progress is being carried out with haste. Would be hard to keep up but for your good self.
All the best, Arthur O Hara.
Reporter on April 02, 2014
Yep - I'm pretty sure the layout in Waze accurately matches the current junction layout. I'll be watching out for the layout changes as they happen - I see they're in the process of building the bridges now. I think L5 is right for the segment locks since neither the satellite images and GPS tracks match the layout any more, and I am keeping a close eye on this. I might move this discussion to a forum thread shortly, since it'll get lost if anybody closes the UR (which has happened once already!)
All remarks, comments and questions about the roadworks project and how we're handling it in Waze are welcome. If I miss anything (such as a junction layout change) then please let me know! I work not far from Newlands Cross, and although don't pass through it every day, I can pop down there at short notice to check out any changes.

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Re: ROADWORKS: Newlands Cross / N7 in Dublin

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iainhouse wrote:Just a note for future use. We have a UK Roadworks sub-forum where we do this sort of thing. One of the things we try to do is actually place a link to the relevant forum post in the UR. If you include a URL in the text of a UR, it gets replaced by a blue, clickable "here". We find it a very useful way of linking things up: if an editor sees the UR and opens it, they are then one click away from going straight to the forum post with more details.
Thanks Iain. I lurk in the UK roadworks forum - but just to look out for roadworks that might be close to the border here, so I hadn't looked at any of the pertinent URs. Actually, I wouldn't be able to see the URs anyway, since almost all of the UK is outside my editable area.

Anyway, that's a good idea. URLs in UR comments don't seem to get converted to clickable links. It's a shame the UR text can't be edited after the event, otherwise I'd put a link in there. The last comment on that UR does contain a link to this thread, at least.

I just wish more of the active editors in Ireland frequented this forum. Some do and some don't, but I find a lot of posts here get more responses from UK editors than Ireland editors :?

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Re: ROADWORKS: Newlands Cross / N7 in Dublin

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The flyover at Newlands Cross is opening on Thursday this week (November 20). I imagine there are other changes still to come to that junction, but Arthur O'Hara has already updated the map to accommodate the change - thanks Arthur!

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Re: ROADWORKS: Newlands Cross / N7 in Dublin

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Hi David.

Just a note for future use. We have a UK Roadworks sub-forum where we do this sort of thing. One of the things we try to do is actually place a link to the relevant forum post in the UR. If you include a URL in the text of a UR, it gets replaced by a blue, clickable "here". We find it a very useful way of linking things up: if an editor sees the UR and opens it, they are then one click away from going straight to the forum post with more details.
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Re: ROADWORKS: Newlands Cross / N7 in Dublin

Post by iainhouse
davidg666 wrote:I wouldn't be able to see the URs anyway, since almost all of the UK is outside my editable area.
You can always log out and go into Practise mode. Mind you, whilst you'll then be able to see the link, when you click on it you'll probably have to log back in to see the forum post!
davidg666 wrote:It's a shame the UR text can't be edited after the event
That would be nice, but there's nothing stopping you solving the UR and replacing it with a new one.

Also, if your UR text starts with [ROADWORKS] (must be upper case), there are specific filtering options for them in URO+ and LMUR, which I don't think are country specific.
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