Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby gettingthere » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:49 am

Exactly. Data is becoming or has become more important than voice. It's too bad the cellular companies will not let you have a data only package with the iPhone. This would be great.

There are lots of VOIP apps for iPhone. Viber seems to be pretty popular. Although to effectively use it to eliminate voice calls the person you are speaking to must have it also. It's free, no ads. There are many other options.

http://www.viber.com/
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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby gettingthere » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:31 pm

xbassman wrote:As to my earlier post about selling my old iphone4.
The Amazon vendor gave us credit for the amount promised.
I am sure some folks misrepresent the condition of their phones to their advantage.
We did not, but the phones we sent were in near pristine condition.


That's good news. Congrats!
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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby gettingthere » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:33 pm

tibble wrote:With the iPhone 5 on ATT it switches the antennas to UMTS and can do both, but you won't get LTE speeds while on a call(boo hoo!).


Although you still can get what AT&T is advertising as 4G, HSPA+ when on a phone call with AT&T.

In any case, compared to iPhone 4 - the iPhone 5 is impressive in every regard :)
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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby scheu001 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:36 pm

BUT, did you know that AT&T's iPhone 5 won't do simultaneous voice+data either when you're in AT&T's LTE markets? Granted, they only have a dozen or so now, but when they finally build out their network you will LOSE SVD in their LTE markets. Apple only put 1 radio in ALL the carriers' phones. Old GSM networks did SVD as part of the network, but add in LTE and AT&T is in the same boat as the other carriers. Also, there doesn't appear to be any way to prevent your AT&T iPhone from accessing the LTE network if it exists.
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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby scheu001 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:03 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
scheu001 wrote:BUT, did you know that AT&T's iPhone 5 won't do simultaneous voice+data either when you're in AT&T's LTE markets?

Oh, now this is starting to suck even more. Is this really true? Can you cite some articles?

According to http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/ ... n_networks, your statement is not true.


Have to admit that my info was outdated. Old information I had was that AT&T would not drop their phone back to their HSPA network in LTE markets, even to place a voice call. Looks like they changed their mind on that.

I retract my statement. SORRY for the scare!
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/1 ... alls-data/
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/13/33284 ... zon-sprint

However, when VoLTE launches the CDMA carriers will catch up again...but admittedly that'll be a couple of years.
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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby silversurfer73 » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:07 pm

Here is a good article explaining why the iPhone 5 will not due simultaneous voice and data on Verizon or Sprint.

http://macdailynews.com/2012/09/13/why- ... -and-data/
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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby tibble » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:06 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
bkayrac wrote:it's a byproduct of the iphone 5 design.....was done to help battery life with LTE, therefor it will never work with sprint/verizon

for clarification, the iphone 5 hardware simply won't allow it, it's that new architecture for LTE, where there is only 1 radio, instead of LTE having it's own radio

One of the articles I read suggests that as LTE matures (not sure what that means, exactly) then providers like Verizon will be able to have SVD. I don't totally understand why/how GSM can do this and LTE cannot. You'd think the next big thing would at least have what seems an important feature of older technology...

So heres the reason:
With CDMA(verizons non-LTE tech for voice/data) you can only do one at a time, be it voice or data.
With UMTS(Att's non-LTE voice/data tech) you can.

With the iPhone 5 on verizon it switches the antennas to CDMA to make calls, no data.
With the iPhone 5 on ATT it switches the antennas to UMTS and can do both, but you won't get LTE speeds while on a call(boo hoo!).

Other verizon LTE phones have an extra transmit antenna so it can do LTE and CDMA at the same time, iPhone didn't have the space for the extra antenna and more importantly the extra chip to regulate it.

LTE is packet only, so it will only do voice through VOIP, most likely VoLTE, which isn't supported by the iPhone 5 either, and only supported by MetroPCS in the states.
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Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby tibble » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:11 pm

gettingthere wrote:
tibble wrote:With the iPhone 5 on ATT it switches the antennas to UMTS and can do both, but you won't get LTE speeds while on a call(boo hoo!).


Although you still can get what AT&T is advertising as 4G, HSPA+ when on a phone call with AT&T.

In any case, compared to iPhone 4 - the iPhone 5 is impressive in every regard :)

Agreed I went 4->5 and am loving it.
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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby xbassman » Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:15 am

Hey Alan,

FWIW AT&T is giving me $241 a piece for a pair of iPhone 4's.
Definitely a better deal upgrading than I have ever had in the past.

That said, I am already going through withdrawal. I activated an old LG flip phone to use until my iPhone 5 gets here..... :cry:
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Re: Verizon LTE-iPhone5-SVD?

Postby xbassman » Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:02 pm

To anyone looking to get the above mentioned price for an iPhone 4.
Either the AT&T rep misquoted or the buy back price changed.
They offered my wife $150 today which she declined.
Amazon is paying us almost as much as the above quote. (We locked in a price Tuesday).
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