Hope some people in India noticed. I'm trying to increase Indian Wazers since today morning and got three.
Hope tomorrow is better..
Chris -> MB526 -> Tapatalk 2
Hope tomorrow is better..
Chris -> MB526 -> Tapatalk 2
I beg to differ. Installed it from Play Store and was shocked to see it running google maps. Waze Map of Chennai is the most up to date today. And no points? Any incentives? Didn't see any!Spazinbc wrote:I can see them becoming Waze's Achilles heel.
gettingthere wrote: It's apx. 30 million Waze accounts. This number is not active users. Waze has kept a very tight lid on the number of active users.
There already is at least one alternative - OpenStreetMap - http://www.openstreetmap.org/
There are some Apps available now that use this data. Here is an example: http://www.skobbler.com/
Weren't the basic maps free? As far as I know, they were.OldGnome wrote: "Updated" for the most part, not "created." "Improved," yes. "Created," no.
Any individual who has been participating in moving Waze forward (who is not part of the paid staff of Waze) has been here as a volunteer. You knew that when you signed on to do whatever you have been doing. You cannot retroactively go back and complain that "I won't get compensated for my work."
Oh yes, of course. Value. The maps were free and therefore worthless before the community here (and for small parts the staff) contributed to them.OldGnome wrote: So what? You still haven't "created" anything.
So? I'm not asking to get paid, and I'm not saying that Waze is about to do something they aren't legally allowed to do.OldGnome wrote: There is quite a distance between complaining and applauding. The point you seem to be missing is that the data is Waze's to do with as they see fit. Knowingly participating in that process may not prevent you from getting your feathers ruffled, but you really don't have much say in the matter.
I hate to tell you this... but there is a huge difference here in my opinion.OldGnome wrote: I hate to tell you this....remember a little IPO about mid-2012? Facebook is publicly traded.
Ignoring user base. Not very smart. If Waze loses a lot of users like me, who are in the top 2% or so of users, they might end up the MySpace of social navigation.OldGnome wrote: "Tolerate?" Please. You can use or not use whatever you wish. You seem to want to scare Waze into doing something you disagree with. Use or not use. There isn't a third option.
Maybe, but at least we could become part of that threat ourselves.Poopstick wrote:Investors are indeed the real threat. You can't refuse a return on investment which represents your investment 10 folds.
Doesn't Waze already sell traffic data, without selling their whole company?Poopstick wrote: As for what apple could do with Waze: what they want is traffic data and maybe a pair of navigation algorithms. They don't give a damn about the community and the road layer. Waze's maps are probably not something which could be merged easily with Apple's, especially with all the imperfections.
Yes, from an economic point of view free maps without license restrictions are worthless.OldGnome wrote: "Free" certainly does not equal worthless. However, you still haven't "created" anything. You used that term and I insist that was incorrect.
Yes, of course you did. Also you continue to do so.OldGnome wrote: I never said that.
If you don't see any difference here, I can't help you.OldGnome wrote: Hang on a second. You mentioned Facebook and what you would do when Zuckerberg sold it. I am only reminding you that he already DID that.
It's up to Waze how they respond to anything and what they do. I'm just saying what I would do if I'm no longer satisfied. Just in case Waze is run by people like you, who think user "don't have a say" or how you put it. Which is funny, because now you say we should "negotiate". No idea how that goes together for you.OldGnome wrote: I have seen darn few folks in the forums pop off about a weak rumor the way you have. I have seen in the past on forums for other free software, the same kind of threat -- "If you don't give me what I want, I will take my ball and bat and go home." I don't think Waze (or anyone) responds much well to those kinds of threats and I get annoyed when people think that threatening to leave is a useful negotiating tactic.
Waze contrubutions are measured in points, not # of edits. Maybe half of $750m should be divided by the total number of points... how much would that be per point?petervdveen wrote:Well.. Just give every wazer a dollar for every edit and I'm okey with it
What if the fouders of Waze themselves are now having a similar plan?Poopstick wrote: I see investors as a threat since for the last 30 years investors are only looking for a quick ROI rather than pushing a project to its end.
If consumers were willing to pay as much for products as you in France are willing to pay for high quality food, the people who started this would have gone bankrupt.Poopstick wrote: They screwed up the western world by moving factories to China. Now China is knocking at the door with Made BY China stuff.
No problem, bro. It's not like talking to you is going anywhere for me, either. Obviously there are people here who actually know basic economic principles.OldGnome wrote: Sorry, I'm not playing this game any more.
Re: Apple to acquire Waze?