Winter Road Condition

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Winter Road Condition

Postby kheops74-gmail » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:48 pm

We can report danger as Snow, Rain, etc. It's more a weather feature than a road condition feature.

I think a group of danger is missing and can be VERY useful. This group is "Road Condition". It describe the pavement state and the visibility. Two things very important during Winter.

Here an example from the Québec Government road condition website (http://carte.quebec511.gouv.qc.ca/en/Default.aspx).


Road Conditions
Pavement
    Bare
    Partly Covered
    Covered
    Closed
Visibility
    Good
    Fair
    Poor
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby KB9TFZ » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:14 pm

Great idea!
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby svx-biker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:08 pm

Also think about complete road closure during winter. This especially applies to streets in (high) mountain areas of Switzerland, Italy, France and Austria.
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby kheops74-gmail » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:41 pm

svx-biker, you're so right. Yesterday it happens to me. I'm sure the road was great in Summer but it was close for Winter. I reported it as an error but it was not an error just a fact for a Northern Country.

BTW, You can add Québec to your list.
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby kheops74-gmail » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:47 pm

I hope Waze developers will do something quickly before i stopped using it. For the moment, maps for turn by turn direction are not great in my region (apple maps are a lot better :-)). A lot of people stop using it because of the lack of user and the quality of the maps. I hope better road condition feature will bring back user. These users will correct the maps and we will have a better tool.

Any idea to how this post can be see by développer who understand Winter driving in low populated region?

Thanks.
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby Spil » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:44 pm

kheops74-gmail wrote:svx-biker, you're so right. Yesterday it happens to me. I'm sure the road was great in Summer but it was close for Winter. I reported it as an error but it was not an error just a fact for a Northern Country.

BTW, You can add Québec to your list.

We have several such roads south of you in upstate New York also. What I would recommend (as I do down here) is to set these roads to "Dirt Road / 4x4 Trail" type. That way, they're there for those who dare (and are equipped) to use them, but routing won't prefer them over other roads, and won't use them at all (unless absolutely necessary) for those who have the "avoid dirt roads" setting turned on.

Once summer returns for its glorious month or two ;), you can set them back to normal "Street" type if you deem it worthy ... but for the most part (at least around here), there's no point in doing so.
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby kheops74-gmail » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:23 am

Road Condition would be great!
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby kheops74-gmail » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:01 pm

I stopped using Waze last year. I'm ready to give it another try. I still don't understand why road condition are not in the app. It's the most important things during winter.

Here an example from the Québec Government road condition website (http://carte.quebec511.gouv.qc.ca/en/Default.aspx).

Road Conditions

Pavement
    Bare
    Partly Covered
    Covered
    Closed
Visibility
    Good
    Fair
    Poor
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby AndyPoms » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:35 pm

Well, Waze has added a Report->Closure so the sytem, so that's covered.

"Ice" is available as a hazard, but only as a voice command.
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Re: Winter Road Condition

Postby kheops74-gmail » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:32 pm

I don't think it's covered at all. What about the visibility part? What you really want to know when meteo is bad is : "where you see nothing?".

The site http://carte.quebec511.gouv.qc.ca/en/Default.aspx is much more useful than Waze. The only problem is that it give the information for a big section of the road so you don't know where the visibility is ok and where it's really bad. It's where Waze can be a great help if people can told the system easily how the pavement and the visibility are.

Ask some people who live where Winter is hard and they will told you that Blowing Snow is much more dangerous than ice. When you don't see where you go, ice is the last of your problem.
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