Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1billion

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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby JohnDoe75 » Sat May 11, 2013 10:26 am

jasomslon wrote:
Boiler_81 wrote:I have put a lot of time into Waze editing. I am currently #16 with 1,850,000. I can not stand FB due to their lack of privacy. I will be going back to Google Maps if this happens.


why google maps? wouldn't contribution to openstreetmap make a lot more sense?


I think he meant using google maps more than contributing to it.

I would too but I will miss TMP, light and speed radars, traps and dangers
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby ncc1701v » Sat May 11, 2013 11:51 am

sketch wrote:If you want programs that benefit everyone without a profit motive behind them, maybe you should consider voting socialist.

Gang, there are different approaches to making a profit, capitalism doesn't mean squeezing everything you can out of everyone you can, and calling a situation where everybody wins socialism is just displaying ignorance. The Waze business model as I understood it was originally to give people something they wanted (good congestion avoidance) in trade for up-to-the-second congestion reporting, which could then be sold to others. Everybody profits. That changed as the user base changed, so that the map itself became more significant, they dabbled in other things they could monetize and even started selling advertising on the map, but congestion avoidance was still primary, and the deal you make with Waze was clear. The Facebook business model on the other hand started out as selling advertising and became confused and ad hoc. They've said they make it up as they go along. The trade you make with them is never clearly defined, but it certainly involves their allowing access to personal information that you may not have agreed to spread. Regardless of what FB says, their system leaks, a lot, and they are dangerous to privacy. This leakage can be controlled where you use a web browser to interact with them, but it cannot be controlled if you are constantly feeding information about yourself to them from a phone app.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby dmcconachie » Sat May 11, 2013 12:52 pm

Advertising has been part if Waze's plan for as long as I've been using it.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby ncc1701v » Sat May 11, 2013 1:38 pm

dmcconachie wrote:Advertising has been part if Waze's plan for as long as I've been using it.

DM, from my exploration it seemed to me that in the beginning they were experimenting, seeing what they could monetize, and that advertising didn't begin in earnest until at least a year in. But that's not the main point. I find it hard to believe you don't know about FB's problems with privacy and data leakage.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby dmcconachie » Sat May 11, 2013 2:01 pm

ncc1701v wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:Advertising has been part if Waze's plan for as long as I've been using it.

DM, from my exploration it seemed to me that in the beginning they were experimenting, seeing what they could monetize, and that advertising didn't begin in earnest until at least a year in. But that's not the main point. I find it hard to believe you don't know about FB's problems with privacy and data leakage.

I'm aware of the concerns people have. They're way overplayed though. No worse than Google, Apple or Amazon.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby ncc1701v » Sat May 11, 2013 2:09 pm

dmcconachie wrote:I'm aware of the concerns people have. They're way overplayed though. No worse than Google, Apple or Amazon.

OK well, I guess we disagree. I believe my opinion is based on historical evidence. Thanks.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby dmcconachie » Sat May 11, 2013 2:12 pm

ncc1701v wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:I'm aware of the concerns people have. They're way overplayed though. No worse than Google, Apple or Amazon.

OK well, I guess we disagree. I believe my opinion is based on historical evidence. Thanks.

Show me the evidence then. And historical is the key, they lacked privacy granularity in the early days.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby no1ne » Sat May 11, 2013 2:21 pm

Nore Facebook than Google or Apple.
I came to waze to have a free gps app with traffic info paid by adds and my part in map editing
Don't want my drive to be linked to any part of the rest of my life
FB privacy settings are to difficult to understand and can be changed by FB so easily
(who had ever read each privacy policy release of FB or even waze's ones)

I' m not ready /don't want to give up privacy to get a more efficient waze

My friends I meet them IRL, no need of computerised social network for that
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby petervdveen » Sat May 11, 2013 4:14 pm

I think the Wazebook logo looks quiet nice :lol:

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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby Chris_CA » Sat May 11, 2013 6:45 pm

Waze + FB = me gone too
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