Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1billion

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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby ncc1701v » Sat May 11, 2013 11:51 am

sketch wrote:If you want programs that benefit everyone without a profit motive behind them, maybe you should consider voting socialist.

Gang, there are different approaches to making a profit, capitalism doesn't mean squeezing everything you can out of everyone you can, and calling a situation where everybody wins socialism is just displaying ignorance. The Waze business model as I understood it was originally to give people something they wanted (good congestion avoidance) in trade for up-to-the-second congestion reporting, which could then be sold to others. Everybody profits. That changed as the user base changed, so that the map itself became more significant, they dabbled in other things they could monetize and even started selling advertising on the map, but congestion avoidance was still primary, and the deal you make with Waze was clear. The Facebook business model on the other hand started out as selling advertising and became confused and ad hoc. They've said they make it up as they go along. The trade you make with them is never clearly defined, but it certainly involves their allowing access to personal information that you may not have agreed to spread. Regardless of what FB says, their system leaks, a lot, and they are dangerous to privacy. This leakage can be controlled where you use a web browser to interact with them, but it cannot be controlled if you are constantly feeding information about yourself to them from a phone app.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby ncc1701v » Sat May 11, 2013 1:38 pm

dmcconachie wrote:Advertising has been part if Waze's plan for as long as I've been using it.

DM, from my exploration it seemed to me that in the beginning they were experimenting, seeing what they could monetize, and that advertising didn't begin in earnest until at least a year in. But that's not the main point. I find it hard to believe you don't know about FB's problems with privacy and data leakage.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby ncc1701v » Sat May 11, 2013 2:09 pm

dmcconachie wrote:I'm aware of the concerns people have. They're way overplayed though. No worse than Google, Apple or Amazon.

OK well, I guess we disagree. I believe my opinion is based on historical evidence. Thanks.
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby nnote » Fri May 10, 2013 8:13 pm

Dear Mark Z,
I want at minumum .25 cents for each edit I've contributed to your possibly acquired navigation program. So far that's $92,550. If you request that I continue to spend my personal time improving your product my rate will continue to be .25 cents per edit and also an additional $15 per hour. Thank you.
(If waze stays waze I will continue for free on my own enjoyment and desire to help humanity)
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby no1ne » Sat May 11, 2013 2:21 pm

Nore Facebook than Google or Apple.
I came to waze to have a free gps app with traffic info paid by adds and my part in map editing
Don't want my drive to be linked to any part of the rest of my life
FB privacy settings are to difficult to understand and can be changed by FB so easily
(who had ever read each privacy policy release of FB or even waze's ones)

I' m not ready /don't want to give up privacy to get a more efficient waze

My friends I meet them IRL, no need of computerised social network for that
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby no1ne » Sun May 12, 2013 8:47 am

It's just à different level of involvement
Some drive with FB or Not
Some drive with FB or Not and edit (a lot)
Some drive, edit and are ready to go far away with FB
But we still have the choice

Later it could be FB or leave

In this mater I'm pro choice

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https://www.facebook.com/about/privacy => one page 9 link mini
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby petervdveen » Sat May 11, 2013 4:14 pm

I think the Wazebook logo looks quiet nice :lol:

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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby petervdveen » Sat May 11, 2013 9:51 pm

TheScarecrow wrote:I suppose selling out was always the eventual plan...

That's what most start-up's are hoping for ;-)
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby petervdveen » Tue May 14, 2013 12:55 pm

The adds also appear without FB taking over ;-)
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Re: Facebook rumored to be buying GPS app Waze for upto$1bil

Postby razor2k » Fri May 10, 2013 12:46 am

dmcconachie wrote:People have to make a living, servers have to be paid for. Nothing is free.


dmcconachie,

As a waze champ (meaning you) I am kinda shocked by your lackadaisical attitude. I understand the logistics of the situation and I can't say I disagree, but c'mon man...we all have a lot of time invested in this project. Unless you're a facebook fan, I don't understand your defense :?
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