Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby nerventanz » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:27 am

Waze was a nice app. I liked it.
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby nogetandet » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:00 pm

shirlig wrote:Hi guys,

We have just removed from the map all the speed cameras in Denmark, Switzerland and Germany due to it being illegal in these countries.

we are examining ways to make Waze compliant with French law as well

Thanks,

Shirli


Hi Shirli,

In Denmark, it is not illegal to warn about speed control. General, everything is allowed, if it's not stated otherwise (also U-turns ;) ).

At http://www.politi.dk/da/aktuelt/nyheder ... 150905.htm it is discussed that it is not allowed to blink with the lights to warn about the speed control, but all other ways it's okay.
From the Danish Police Homepage wrote:” Vi har ikke noget imod at alle lovlige midler tages i anvendelse for at sænke farten. Men det er altså ulovligt at misbruge bilens fjernlys.” siger chefpolitiinspektør Mogens Wilbert, Rigspolitiets færdselsafdeling.

"We have nothing against all legal means to be used to slow down. But it is illegal to abuse the car's high beam." Said Chief Superintendent Mogens Wilbert, National Police Traffic Department


So, can you please enable this feature again?

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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby ofirbl » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:25 am

Tilonius wrote:This decision was a big mistake.
The user should decide whether to use it.
We will lose many users. :cry:

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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby ofirbl » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:30 am

DIsabling the camers in Waze is a BIG mistake,
HUGE mistake ! ! !
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby ofirbl » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:36 am

top_gun_de wrote:
shirlig wrote:Hi guys,

We have just removed from the map all the speed cameras in Denmark, Switzerland and Germany due to it being illegal in these countries.

...
Please, reconsider your decision. It is ill-advised on the legal side, and it will hurt Waze's position on the navigation market.

Every navigation software offers speed-cameras or comparable services. Navigon/Garmin decided to warn of "Unfallschwerpunkte" (locations with high potential of accident), and use the existence of a speed cam as an indicator for such locations.
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GOOD IDEA !!!
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby ofirbl » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:28 pm

Hi shirli,
Here is one concrete suggestion:
ofirbl wrote:
top_gun_de wrote:
shirlig wrote:Hi guys,

We have just removed from the map all the speed cameras in Denmark, Switzerland and Germany due to it being illegal in these countries.

...
Every navigation software offers speed-cameras or comparable services. Navigon/Garmin decided to warn of "Unfallschwerpunkte" (locations with high potential of accident), and use the existence of a speed cam as an indicator for such locations.
...

GOOD IDEA !!!
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby OyyoDams » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:31 am

It has been discussed with Waze staff. Please stay tuned ;)
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby P4nd4mir » Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:13 pm

Hi, why it´s illegal? It isn´t illegal to provide speedcams in the wazemap. It is illegal to use these Information on my device. I think many of us are old enough to decide if we use these information or not. The punishment became the user of the device and not you. Everybody can enable or disable this Information.
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby palmerit » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:13 am

I think we all need to remember that any entity is going to do what their attorneys tell them to do. I hire attorneys because I am not one. I respect what they tell me, and I trust that they have my best interests in mind because they want to retain my business. Of course they are human, and make mistakes too.

I'm sure this decision wasn't taken lightly, and waze legal obviously feels it is in their best interest.

The only way you are likely to change their minds, is to show them their legal team is wrong.

Claiming that they are only hurting or offending the community, isn't going to change anyone's mind, as I'm sure they took 'community outrage' into consideration. Waze isn't stupid, they know very well that they wouldn't be where they are today, without us. They aren't deliberately trying to upset anyone.



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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby Pelle924 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:15 am

Announcing such a change, just like it means nothing for the local community? Without having discussion with the local CM's or telling them in advance? Just like someone made that decision in its lunch-break? Seriously?!

Waze is not a company, where your Boss is telling you how it goes. You define yourserelf as a community. People are working for waze without earning any money. I wouldn't dare doing something, that could offend the community and if I were a CM, I would definitely feel offended and not taken seriously or treatet with the appropriate respect.

Even if it's a google decision, its just the way you handled that issue, that makes me angry.

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