Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby blackb0x » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:46 pm

it's also illegal to not buckle up. imagine the car would refuse to start without the belt.
it's about being able to decide for yourself.

but it seems that we are just repeating the same thing over and over again.

is waze even aware that there are a few people waiting for a statement??
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby blackb0x » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:54 pm

a statement about whats going on now. it's over a month and there are no news yet
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby blackb0x » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:28 am

+1

TH3515 wrote:How can you ecpect thousands of users to spend their valuable time idealistically working on improving the maps, reporting traffic, correcting errors etc. when you don't even go to the trouble of checking with a few experts that are competent in the local laws before you remove one of the most vital functions in your whole concept? This is ridiculous.

well put ! that's exactly the point. after selling a company, that's actually worth all the work of so many volunteers, for nearly a billion bucks, how can you not even pay attention to what they want?


TH3515 wrote: Don't be mislead by there being only a few responses in this thread. I bet most users never found it or didn't even look for it.

try to search google why there are no speed cams in wsze anymore: nothing.
just a link to the german waze tutorial explaining how to put speed cams on the map, saying this is not available any more, with a linknto this thread.
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby Byron2701 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:44 pm

this is as if car manufacturers would decide to limit all cars top speeds to 130km/h because except Germany there is no country in Europe where it is allowed to drive faster :evil:

why not making it the same way TomTom does:
put a button in the options of the App to activate/deactivate the speed cameras and let the users decide themselves if they want to use it or not - it is their money if police catches them ;-)

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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby Camou893 » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:01 pm

:evil: Let the affected users decide, i.e. don't domineer over the german users!
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby Camou893 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:04 pm

top_gun_de wrote:The german law: Par. 23 Straßenverkehrsordnung:
(1b) Wer ein Fahrzeug führt, darf ein technisches GERÄT nicht betreiben oder betriebsbereit mitführen, das dafür bestimmt ist, Verkehrsüberwachungsmaßnahmen anzuzeigen oder zu stören. Das gilt insbesondere für Geräte zur Störung oder Anzeige von Geschwindigkeitsmessungen (Radarwarn- oder Laserstörgeräte).

If you read it even closer this Article is only about DEVICES which are made for: showing or disturbing traffic control. No word about Navigation Systems or even Software.
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby Camou893 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:13 pm

Byron2701 wrote:why not making it the same way TomTom does:
put a button in the options of the App to activate/deactivate the speed cameras and let the users decide themselves if they want to use it or not - it is their money if police catches them ;-)

And thats even already possible. There is a button to disable/enable in the Options...
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby Camou893 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:29 pm

And still no answers from waze... To keep quiet won't solve the problems you have with your community. Don't you need your community?
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby Camou893 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:47 am

Colonel667 wrote:Of course it's illegal here in Germany.

Read the law again. It's "of course" not clear, that it is illegal.
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Re: Removal of speed cameras following legal issues

Postby Camou893 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:04 pm

davipt wrote:- if it's clear that it's illegal for the driver to use the feature of radar DB POI while driving on a public road in Germany

It even isn't illegal for the driver. Because the law was never about Navigation software or Mobile phones. The law is about those old Devices, that could receive the laser-rays and warn when they "see" the laser.

No police-man would be allowed to examine your mobile-phone when he stops you.
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