(Ive broken this into two posts as the Patea one was quite long by itself)
Antmannz wrote:For me, the Live Map is a guide only; it's what is shown in the client that matters most, and in the client the City Name moves about to accommodate your position, and whatever road names and other gui elements are being displayed.
It only does that in some conditions, for instance zoom out in the client, navigate to a town/city (you would end up in the middle of nowhere), or change the setting to be based on distance rather than speed (where zoom applies).
Antmannz wrote:IMO, setting the City Name according to road speed is pure nonsense; it requires a greater knowledge of the locality being edited and is likely to require more frequent updating. Additionally, as detailed in earlier posts, areas may just disappear off the map.
Waze has 1 mile limitation for a reason, people cannot edit an area without driving it. The only people who get away with this excuse would be AMs and CM's and then other questions should be asked.
How are we going to fix the other missing area names? Should we actually be entering a city of: 'Waiongana, Inglewood, Taranaki, North Island', or maybe 'Gumtown, Kamo, Whangarei, North Island'? Which of these 'areas' are not important?
Antmannz wrote:It's unlikely that new editors (which are likely 'transient' anyway) will read the forum or wiki here, they'll just start editing so any sort of decision re rural city naming I think needs to be simple enough that it would closely match what a newbie would do.
people I know dont just jump in and change everything without looking at what is there first? But how does a newbie know that City means 'Area'? Or that the tick box that says 'No City' shouldnt be used?
The question comes down to what ever option we decide on needs to be written down in the wiki page so people who actually do read it (or we can at least point people at it) can find the correct information to go in the field.
If you can write the wording for any of the options then please post it here, remembering that we are trying for a simple approach so it needs to cover how to find the information.
I have two versions for the No City:1.
For a rural area (normally where the speed limit is 100k/ph) tick 'No City'OR 2.
For sections which are not built up with housing tick 'No City'
Heres a couple of attempts for always having a city (im sure one of the people who are pro this option can word this better than me):1.
Where city/town is not applicable determine the boundary of an area by using Google maps or council documentation, if the road falls within two areas, break the road at the boundary. Enter the area name into the city field.OR 2.
Determine the area which the segment falls in, the road should be split if it falls within two areas. Areas can normally be determined by using local council documentation or using Google maps.
Ive also left out that the use of Google maps violates there term and conditions, and that Alt names should be used as for a newbie they wouldnt know that anyway.