Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:10 pm

Just added three entries to the list that I tested for but forgot to include in the list.

    Boro → Borough
    Par → Parade
    Ph → Phone

"Boro" may be handy for roads in Alaska as Borough is their name for counties.

I tested for "Par" and "Ph" in hopes that one would be an abbreviation for "Parish" as that is what Louisiana calls their counties.

Sorry Jason and Sketch... no love for LA yet.

I was quite surprised to learn that "Ph" was for "Phone". Besides all the abbreviations for "Stravenue" it is probably one of the strangest discoveries so far. Now where do you think we would ever use "Phone" on the maps?
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Re: Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze C

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:58 pm

xteejx wrote:Has anyone asked Waze to look at their TTS service and grab all this information for us? There's gotta be an easier way than testing manually.

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Yes we asked for that at the Palo Alto meetup last January and they said it was not available.


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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:23 am

WeeeZer14 wrote:Boro is also useful in NYC ;)


Actually it may be useful in NJ also and maybe not so much for AK, as I could only find road sign images show "Boro" for NJ and NY.

After Alan's post, I wondered where I found "Boro" as an abbreviation for "Borough". I searched again and found it at a couple of sites including http://www.zip-codes.com/zip-code-datab ... ations.asp as an abbreviation for both "Boro" and "Borough" in the Official USPS Common Abbreviation list.

Curiously however, I could not find this same list at the Official USPS website. And I suppose I'll scan this list and hopefully NOT find too many more to add to our test list.

Somewhere I found "Bor" as another one to test for.

But wait! Did you know the etymology for "Borough", says it came from "burg"? Did you know that Gerban?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:51 pm

Just hit a new snag in the testing of the abbreviation TTS results.

There are two TTS audio files created for every segment tested. One speaks just the words as the segment is named, where as the other has the word "at" prefacing the contained words.

When recently testing a segment named "boro, par, ph", I just noticed that one file said, "at, boro, parade, phone" and the other file said, "boro, par, p h".

This could help explain why some people have experienced different TTS results than others with the same abbreviations.

While I'm sure other examples exist, this is the first I have noticed. I'll re-test with some other variations to see if the cause of the result differences can be narrowed down.

I'll also have to think about how these varied results can be indicated in the test list.

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:24 am

AndyPoms wrote:
AndyPoms wrote:1) "Capt" as in "Capt Andrew Rd" is pronounced "Capped" (close, but you get the idea)
1a) Changed to "Capt." for next tile update - will test "Cap" next

2) "Hosp" is pronounced "Hos-puh" (used "Hosp Rd" - i.e. "Turn Right onto Hospital Road")
2a) Changing position for further tests (Now using "Test Hosp" - i.e. "Turn Right into City Hospital")


1) "Capt." (with the period) is pronounced "Capt-ain" (with a pause - I had to listen to it a few times)
2) Hosp still pronounced "Hos-puh" for positional test. I do agree with Alan that Hospital probably shouldn't be abbreviated...



Andy, if you are an Android person, could you post the two TTS audio files for "Capt." ?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:04 pm

invented wrote:Can someone try "RR" to see what happens? like RR-20.


Do you mean "Rural Route" or "Rural Road" or something else?

Note we currently have "RR" in the list to test for "Rail Road".
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:08 pm

LittlestLou wrote:So, I already mentioned this to Weezer but I noticed for the very first time today the TTS for CONST ZN was "Kahnst Zee N" and not the intended Construction Zone. I can also confirm this was previously not a problem as I heard it correctly within the last couple of months (not sure exactly when since I don't routinely travel this area). Any thoughts or anyone else noticing this problem all of a sudden?



Read my post here. This could be the issue.

Do you have an Android device? If so, is there any way you could send the TTS audio files?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:28 pm

Typically they are one file number different from each other. One will contain just the names of the segment and the other will have the names prefaced with the word "at" like the files in my message about boro, par, and ph saying borough, parade, and phone in one file but borough, par and p h in the other

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:13 pm

khaytsus wrote:Anyone know the proper abbreviation for Sideroad? I thought it was Srd and had been using this, but that is pronounced "S R D". Not seeing it in the spreadsheet either.


Remember that the list is a test to learn every possible abbreviation that the TTS knows, and not necessarily a recommendation of what to use.

Since this is a bit of an usual case, and the name is not that long, I think it is best to not abbreviate it at all. (Falling back to our motto here of, "When in doubt, spell it out".

Of course I would still like to test for possible abbreviations, just not sure where to start. I did a Google search and found a few uses for "Sideroad" but did not see any useful abbreviations to test.

If you can find actual street signs using an abbreviation, it may help.

If you find the name as two words, then "Side Rd" should be fine. If you find "Sideroad" or "Side-road" then I suppose a specific abbreviation may be in order. From what I have read so far, it looks like the single word noun, "sideroad" is pretty much a Canadian usage, with little additional information. And as already pointed out, at least the Candian Post has no abbreviation listed for it.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:01 pm

khaytsus wrote:...
just "S R D" isn't good either. :)


True, since with the spaces, TTS would speak it as "South R D". And the only way to get the four cardinal letters spoken as letters is to put them in lower case in single quotes, which would sure make your case look strange.

If you look close, there are also a few things in the list that we actually recommend to NOT use, and hopefully Waze will find a way to remove them in the future. (Like "Penn" for Pennsylvania, as then there is no way to have "Penn Road" spoken correctly, unless you misspell it :( )
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