Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:00 am

CBenson wrote:
Wajo357 wrote:1) Most avenues in Brooklyn NY are letters, like Ave M . However, Waze reads Ave N, E, W, and S as the direction, not the letter. A few of us have tested that encapsulating the letters with either single or double quotes gets Waze to say the letter and not the direction. So what do you guys recommend? Single quotes? double quotes? All avenues? Just problematic avenues? Add alternate name with no quotes?

East/West streets in downtown Washington DC are also letters, like "K St." In the past, encapsulating the letters with either single or double quotes would not get waze to say the letter and not the direction (only lower case encapsulated in single quotes gave the letter). Maybe things have changed since I last tried this or maybe it matters whether the single letter starts the name.



Just a thought: Is it possible that K comes before the st? unlike what we have here is: Avenue N.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:50 pm

Wajo357 wrote:
GizmoGuy411 wrote:Single letters to be pronounced as letters when a capitalized letter is surrounded by double quotes was the suggestion made to Waze back in October 2012.

When I have not retested all the permutations, it looks like from those who have tested the letters, N, E, S, and W, that Waze has changed functionality so that upper or lower case letters surrounded by single or double quotes will now say the letter and not the cardinal direction.

I'll amend the list once I can test more permutations.


Sounds good. So now that your tests are done, here come the questions concerning Brooklyn, NY:

1) Should we change Ave N, E, W, S?
2) If yes, would you prefer single or double quotes?
3) Would that screw up navigation search if someone just enters in 1304 Ave S, Brooklyn NY, since it is now only Ave "S"? Would adding an alternate name of Ave S help?
4) Should we just blanket all of the letters in Brooklyn with the quotes specified in 2?
5) I assume we should lock the roads with the changes, correct?

Thanks!

Sincerely,
Joey


If I may persuade GizmoGuy411, I would tink, it would be nice if all change to single quote and keep Avenue as is. For example: Avenue 'N'
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:12 pm

Both David and Carel's points valid. It would definitely be better if Waze Dev. would tweak this on their end.
I know that Waze Champs are also aware and they actually working with us to find a solution and doing testing etc. GizmoGuy411 and jasonh300 are being very helpful as well.

Having said that, IMO, the immediate solution for both of you for now to decide to use either 'N' or "N"
For example: N4 N would be 'N'4 N or "N"4 N.

I know they don't look pretty but, I think, until Waze Dev update anything internally, this would the way to go.

In addition, we are still iron it out Avenue N issue.

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:08 pm

Should we start fixing those with single digit letters? or wait till you finish the next test?
Also, Should we change all or just the N,W, S, E letters?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:45 pm

If we change only those 4 letters, we have not many to do. We'll do the ones we know and correct as we see them.
Personally, I prefer single quotes, but if GizmoGuy recommended to Waze double then we will go with that.
I guess, just as long as we are consistent it shouldn't matter that much.
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Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

Postby orbitc » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:25 am

I agree with Alan. Few of us tested these with few different combination. The Best option, IMO, should be either with single quotes or double quotes.
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Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

Postby orbitc » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:35 am

Once again I'm with Alan. I prefer single quotes as well.

I don't think Waze Dev. changing anything yet. This is just is trying to fix these roads with N, W, S, E letters manually. This way we get better directions from Waze.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:23 am

I'm waiting for:
Sp
A.T.&T.
Alt
St. Middle St

Those were added last night, so in a couple of days, they'll hit the client and I can test them out. I'm going to try out some combos of "S 1st St W" to see what I get.


Are we getting mix messages?
Wajo357 tested with Avenue S. that yield South.
Someone else tested that it worked.
Perhaps, the reason for this is that we were testing a single letter. More concern with the directional letters. Not combinations of letters like A.T.T.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:17 am

Thanks a lot for these extensive tests GizmoGuy411.

As you may know, we've tested couple of options as well. I believe, -if that's OK to proceed- we should go ahead and change those roads with single letter like Avenue S to Avenue 'S'. It seems that's the general consensus at this point.

Also, one might argue, while we are fixing Avenue 'S', why not change it to Ave 'S'
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:08 am

Like I said, that's the general consensus at this point. More people seem to prefer single quotes as well.

In order to address the local issue here, we should start naming just those 4 letters using single quote without shortening the name.
Like this:

Avenue S will be: Ave 'S'
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