Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby qwaletee » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:43 pm

Br is commonly used for Bridge in my area. Disconcerting to frequently be told to bear left onto XYZ Branch. Example: https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-74.20 ... s=31973592

The other segments in the area leading to the Goethals have mostly been changed to say Brg instead of Br, but the fact remains that all the signs actually say Br, and any editor attempting to duplicate the text of the signs is bound to introduce more Br's.

It would be interesting to know the distribution of signs using Br for Bridge versus using Br for Branch, so that we could know which to assign causing the fewest issues.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:04 pm

qwaletee wrote:It would be interesting to know the distribution of signs using Br for Bridge versus using Br for Branch, so that we could know which to assign causing the fewest issues.

As noted elsewhere, when in doubt, spell in out.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Thortok2000 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:25 am

Weird bug happened today.

I set a destination on Casey Avenue. When it said to turn onto it, it said Casey Avenue. When I arrived at my destination, it said 'Casey Ave', like the word ave, rhymes with have. That was weird. Any way to fix?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:23 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
qwaletee wrote:It would be interesting to know the distribution of signs using Br for Bridge versus using Br for Branch, so that we could know which to assign causing the fewest issues.

As noted elsewhere, when in doubt, spell in out.

"Br" is apparently the abbreviation for "Branch" according to both the USPS and MUTCD. This is what Waze's TTS abbreviations are apparently based on.

If a local authority disagrees with the USPS and the MUTCD, well, what can we do.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AndyPoms » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:56 am

sketch wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
qwaletee wrote:It would be interesting to know the distribution of signs using Br for Bridge versus using Br for Branch, so that we could know which to assign causing the fewest issues.

As noted elsewhere, when in doubt, spell in out.

"Br" is apparently the abbreviation for "Branch" according to both the USPS and MUTCD. This is what Waze's TTS abbreviations are apparently based on.

If a local authority disagrees with the USPS and the MUTCD, well, what can we do.
I thought we only found "Br" = "Branch" in the USPS abbreviations, not in the MUTCD. I know in CT (there's a link to the state listing in the TTS spreadsheet) that "Br" is officially "Bridge" (and it's used extensively in the northeast US that way too).
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:32 pm

AndyPoms wrote:I thought we only found "Br" = "Branch" in the USPS abbreviations, not in the MUTCD. I know in CT (there's a link to the state listing in the TTS spreadsheet) that "Br" is officially "Bridge" (and it's used extensively in the northeast US that way too).

To be honest, I thought so too, and in fact I originally said that in my post before editing it. The spreadsheet hints that its Br for branch in both, but I'd thought I remembered reading that Br = Bridge in the MUTCD itself. It's possible I read the spreadsheet wrong yesterday.

Either way, the point I was originally gonna make is that Waze's TTS pulls from both the USPS and MUTCD abbreviations. Usually this means we just get lots of alternatives, but of course where there's conflict we have to pick one. I figure Waze chose to incorporate "Br" for "Branch" and "Brg" for "Bridge" because it's the only way to resolve the conflict while still having an abbreviation for each.


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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:41 am

Thortok2000 wrote:Weird bug happened today.

I set a destination on Casey Avenue. When it said to turn onto it, it said Casey Avenue. When I arrived at my destination, it said 'Casey Ave', like the word ave, rhymes with have. That was weird. Any way to fix?


This is a known issue that Waze is working on. Quite a few destinations are pronounced different than what is said in route. Look at the spreadsheet linked in the opening post of this thread to see several examples.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby bart99gt » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:05 pm

I read through the first few pages, and last few pages of this thread, and didn't see this mentioned.

Is Waze in the process of adopting standard USPS two letter state identifiers to TTS? As I'm sure everyone is aware, Waze currently just says the letters individually, it would be nice to have it actually pronounce the actual state name, either when used as part of a highway name, or as a City, State type reference.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AndyPoms » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:26 am

bart99gt wrote:I read through the first few pages, and last few pages of this thread, and didn't see this mentioned.

Is Waze in the process of adopting standard USPS two letter state identifiers to TTS? As I'm sure everyone is aware, Waze currently just says the letters individually, it would be nice to have it actually pronounce the actual state name, either when used as part of a highway name, or as a City, State type reference.
This has been requested. However Waze doesn't say the letters in all cases, "CT" is pronounced "Court", "NY" is pronounced "North Why", etc.

We've also made a request to have things such as "CA-##", "NY-##", "MI-##", "LA-##" translate into the local "Route"/"Highway"/"El Ay"/etc name as well. This one is much longer term.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:13 am

I have a few instances as well:

to Garden State Pkwy N wasn't correct. It read as "enn" not as "North"
Also, it's reading "Dr" as Doctor.
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