Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:05 am

bummerdude69 wrote:Trying not to highjack this thread too much, so I'll chase down those other options in other places.

But my main question (confusion?) still stands. What is the best way to avoid the TTS Abbreviation translation? Using '.' for the cardinals works, but what about for everything else? Or is there not, just one best way? [Which, looking at the Big List, seems more likely]

The '.' does not work, it is exclusively for cardinals. For most others we just try not to have abbreviations which cause conflicts with real names, that's why we like to be informed when those conflicts are discovered. This allows to reevaluate whether the abbreviation should be modified to avoid conflicts. We can generally find ways around it when necessary, but there is no one size fits all solution.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:45 pm

bummerdude69 wrote:
PesachZ wrote:First of all you are looking at an outdated page ...

Second this does NOT apply to all abbreviations, it is specific to cardinal directions.

Third is there a specific use case, or abbreviation which is being an issue for you that you are trying to override?

Thanks, I missed the difference between the two pages.

VA in "Southern Arizona VA Medical Center" is being pronounced as Virginia rather than just VA ("vee" "aa").

Should it be named with VA in the primary name, or would it be more appropriate to use the full Veterans Affairs, and put VA as an alt name.

If not you can put a space between the VA like "Southern Arizona V A Medical Center"



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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:22 am

bummerdude69 wrote:https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Abbreviations_and_acronyms
When 'N', 'S', 'E', or 'W' should NOT be pronounced as compass directions, enclose the letter in single quotes.

Does this apply to all abbreviations? If so, should that be noted on the page?

First of all you are looking at an outdated page which no longer applies to the USA. For the USA please see guidance on the Abbreviations and acronyms/USA page (item #4).
We are no longer using single quotes, when you want a cardinal direction to be spoke as aleter it should be followed with a period. For example "George W. Bush Blvd"

Second this does NOT apply to all abbreviations, it is specific to cardinal directions.

Third is there a specific use case, or abbreviation which is being an issue for you that you are trying to override?

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:10 pm

dsfargeg wrote:So driving around, i've found 3 more TTS problems. It seems like this could get out of hand easily. Do we have a "good enough" threshold, or do we want to report everything?

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:22 pm

whatnt wrote:
PesachZ wrote:OK does this sound better?


Sounds great!

Ok is on the list

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:22 pm

dsfargeg wrote:
PesachZ wrote:The pitch and tone of the prompt is different, but neither sounds more like landa than Latta to me. I'm not sure we'll be able to do anything on this one.

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Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. How should I respond to the ur?

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The difference is just not distinct enough for me to be able to work on a replacement. Potentials. Legal someone else will be able to figure it out, but not I. You can respond that the wrong pronunciation is so close to the correct pronunciation that out will be hard to fix in the near future.

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:26 am

dsfargeg wrote:
PesachZ wrote:
dsfargeg wrote:So my turn onto Latta Road was:
from Manitou Rd Southbound
To Latta Rd Eastbound

I'm not hearing it wrong, or I'm not understanding what you're hoping to hear. Are you able to get the tts file that sounds wrong, and one that sounds right from your phone?


Files attached.
1440499777-887347-10.tts: Correct pronounciation when reading the address of the destination on Latta Road.
1440499779-24500-21.tts: Incorrect pronounciation when turning from Manitou to Latta.

The pitch and tone of the prompt is different, but neither sounds more like landa than Latta to me. I'm not sure we'll be able to do anything on this one.

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:40 am

dsfargeg wrote:So my turn onto Latta Road was:
from Manitou Rd Southbound
To Latta Rd Eastbound

I'm not hearing it wrong, or I'm not understanding what you're hoping to hear. Are you able to get the tts file that sounds wrong, and one that sounds right from your phone?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:21 am

whatnt wrote:No. Regular n rather than ñ, and neh like "never". And stress on the second syllable: mih-'neh-tah

If it helps, the name is Japanese.

OK does this sound better?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:18 pm

dsfargeg wrote:
whatnt wrote:
dsfargeg wrote:Is there a way to test without driving?


Yes. You can create directions using the app that travel over the desired segment. Then with Android, you can open the *.tts files with an app like ES File Explorer. Use that app's own player to open them as audio. They are stored in \waze\tts\database\. Then \Jane\ if you're using the Jane voice.

I don't think it is possible to browse such folders with iOS.

Wow, that's awesome! Should this go on the wiki page?

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You'll have to search through all the files to find the right one though that way, but that method works too and is actually mentioned above in this thread a while back. You might find thousands of files in that folder though, and if you're hearing a cached file it won't be the most recent files added.

Which wiki page would you add it to, it is an advanced TTS function. We don't have a TTS page perse.

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