Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:56 pm

Your help is needed!

Several reports have been received that certain roads with the "Dr" abbreviation have been voiced by TTS as "doctor" instead of "drive", and only intermittently.

In the Boston area it has happened with "Memorial Dr W" and I believe "Memorial Dr E".

In New York City it has happened with "FDR Dr N" and possibly with "FDR Dr S".

This does not seem to happen all the time.

My suspicion, is that it MAY be occurring during periods when the abbreviation "Dr" is being in heavy use by the TTS server. So if it is rush hour on the west coast and a lot of "Dr" abbreviations are being used, then it COULD also happen on the east coast at the same instant.

In order to help Waze determine the issue, we need to provide them with examples with the following infomation:

- The WME permalink with the segment that you heard the TTS for selected. (Not where you were at the time you heard it, but the segment that was being spoken in the TTS instruction.)

- Your time zone.
- A copy of the actual TTS file from your mobile device.
- The timestamp of the TTS file.

Acquiring a copy of the TTS file and its timestamp can be accomplished as follows:
- For Android devices, download the "ES File Explorer File Manager" app for your device.

- For iOS devices, download a program such as "iFunBox" (no jailbreak needed) to your Mac or Windows computer, and connect your device to your computer via a cable. You may also be able to use Wifi with some programs such as iFunBox.

- Navigate to the location in your device where the TTS files are stored.

Android:
Local/waze/tts/database/local_nuamce_8_mp3_Samantha_Female/ or
Local/waze/tts/database/local_nuamce_8_mp3_Tom_Male/

iOS:
Connected Devices, [your device name], User Applications, [Waze]//Library/Caches/tts/database/local_nuamce_8_mp3_Samantha_Female/ or
Connected Devices, [your device name], User Applications, [Waze]//Library/Caches/tts/database/local_nuamce_8_mp3_Tom_Male/

Once you have found the file, please either upload it to cloud space such as Dropbox or Google Drive and share the link, or just sent it to my Waze@GizmoGuy411.com email address as an attachment.
(It is not possible to sent via a Private Message.)
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby PesachZ » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:40 am

miked_64 wrote:Speaking of problems with letter abbreviations - this UR in Michigan for West "AB" Ave (W AB Ave in the editor) reports that it's pronounced as West Alberta Avenue.

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you may have to change the name of the segments in waze to "W 'AB' Ave", unless the street sign says something different.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby miked_64 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:57 am

Speaking of problems with letter abbreviations - this UR in Michigan for West "AB" Ave (W AB Ave in the editor) reports that it's pronounced as West Alberta Avenue.

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby HandofMadness » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:23 pm

Got a UR today reporting "Cord Ave" was being pronounced "Country Road Avenue".
https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=usa&lo ... 413&zoom=5

Pretty sure the abbreviation should be "Co Rd".
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby citeman » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:27 pm

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby e-sarge » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:16 pm

Here's another example. It's in Canada, but this is the best thread I found for drive being mis-pronounced doctor.

https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=usa&lon=-78.91376&lat=43.88275&layers=933&zoom=8&segments=80654014

    Segment is named "Glen Hill Dr S".
    Should be pronounced "Glen Hill Drive South".
    TTS said "Glen Hill Doctor South".

Please add this to the list.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:35 pm

jaywazin wrote:
harling wrote:'Storrow Dr E' is supposed to be "storrow drive east", not "storrow doctor east" or "storrow doctor ee". And each time someone comes up with an example that we haven't anticipated, the rules (and code) become messier and harder to maintain.

All these conditions and exceptions are easy enough for a human to follow, but to a computer, context-sensitive grammars are brittle. Trust me, I have done this for a living. Better to start now with as straightforward and literal a system as possible, or it will turn into a perpetual problem, where fixing one case will break several others.


Back to Page 2 (1/2012)!! -

Over the last couple weeks I've noticed this popping up again.

Memorial Dr W is now "Memorial Doctor West"
and Storrow Dr E is now "Storrow Doctor East"


Could not duplicate the issue with "Memorial Dr W". Suspect TTS server/routing server cliches. (A more detailed reply sent to jaywazin via PM, along with other content.)


To harlings point, the results of the exception issues are compounded when the system simply falls back to defaults, and confuses people more.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby sketch » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:40 pm

Propose we hard-code Dr. to Doctor and Dr to Drive – if I'm not mistaken, both are currently handled by Nuance default behavior.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby jaywazin » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:48 am

harling wrote:'Storrow Dr E' is supposed to be "storrow drive east", not "storrow doctor east" or "storrow doctor ee". And each time someone comes up with an example that we haven't anticipated, the rules (and code) become messier and harder to maintain.

All these conditions and exceptions are easy enough for a human to follow, but to a computer, context-sensitive grammars are brittle. Trust me, I have done this for a living. Better to start now with as straightforward and literal a system as possible, or it will turn into a perpetual problem, where fixing one case will break several others.


Back to Page 2 (1/2012)!! -

Over the last couple weeks I've noticed this popping up again.

Memorial Dr W is now "Memorial Doctor West"
and Storrow Dr E is now "Storrow Doctor East"
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby CBenson » Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:11 am

Yesterday, N was not voiced as "en" in this ramp name "to Baltimore-Washington Pkwy N / Baltimore / BWI Marshall Airport" found here.
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