Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby pjlasl » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:41 pm

Looking at TxDOT guide to sign elements, they don't recommend abbreviating Branch and Bridge isn't even on the list.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby pjlasl » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:47 pm

PesachZ wrote:
pjlasl wrote:Looking at TxDOT guide to sign elements, they don't recommend abbreviating Branch and Bridge isn't even on the list.

Based on the earlier discussion I've recommended removing the branch abbreviation, and making Br expand to bridge as well to match the MUTCD.


I voted ;)
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Poncewattle » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:32 pm

FYI, Meadowood is being pronounced incorrectly by Jane. Tom and Sam got it correct. First syllable should be meh, not mee

PesachZ wrote:Theoretically yes it can be changed, but the change will affect the entire country anywhere that word is used. Therefore we must first know if this is something pronounced differently in different regions.


ok then, I won't complain about how Newark is being pronounced Newerk instead of New-Ark -- like it is supposed to be pronounced in Delaware... ;-)

Also Luray should be LOOray, not lah-ray -- but that's ok as is, because it's how the locals know who is a tourist. :mrgreen:
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Poncewattle » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:35 pm

Meadowood is not pronounced correctly by Jane.

She says Mee dough wood

It should be like the two separate words, meadow wood

Note that Kate (UK) pronounces it correctly

PL example: https://www.waze.com/editor/?env=usa&lo ... s=76123154
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby pydagenais » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:24 pm

Hi, in the client version "est" is an abbreviation for "estate" but in the quebec province in canada some roads use the term "Est" meanning "East" in english,...

i can see 2 solutions... and 1 option

1- Remouve the abbreviation and change all the recurrence of "est" for "estate" in all north america !!

2- Miss spelling the word "Est" so it dosent come as an error to the ear's of wazers but typing error... but for waze immage

3- Simply add an control ponctuation that confirm that an abbreviation is in place

This error is also on page 19 of this topic !!

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby qwaletee » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:43 pm

Br is commonly used for Bridge in my area. Disconcerting to frequently be told to bear left onto XYZ Branch. Example: https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-74.20 ... s=31973592

The other segments in the area leading to the Goethals have mostly been changed to say Brg instead of Br, but the fact remains that all the signs actually say Br, and any editor attempting to duplicate the text of the signs is bound to introduce more Br's.

It would be interesting to know the distribution of signs using Br for Bridge versus using Br for Branch, so that we could know which to assign causing the fewest issues.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby qwaletee » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:17 pm

GizmoGuy411 wrote:
orbitc wrote:I have a few instances as well:

to Garden State Pkwy N wasn't correct. It read as "enn" not as "North"
Also, it's reading "Dr" as Doctor.


Is "Dr" being pronounced as "Doctor" wide spread or isolated?

Can you send me some examples?

I want to know if there is any correlation to the occurrence of "Sulgrave Dr" being pronounced as "Sulgrave Doctor" that we have found before in multiple locations.


Yeah, love those. Been bitten by them a few times. And why I say bite, I mean by a fit of laughter.

I also saw a UR flaming Waze for 9W. I'm not sure exactly what Waze spoke, but the complaint was that there are two separate NY highways, 9 and 9W, and blah blah blah east and west of Hudson River. UR was on 9W, maybe Waze said "to route 9 west," which he took to mean "state route 9, direction west."

There ought to be a way to flag a piece of text as being "non-abbreviated," so that Waze pronounces it exactly as-is. Or, alternatively, a way to type in the pronounced version of a segment name, so that Waze speech in fine tuned for a problematic reading.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby qwaletee » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:04 pm

PhantomSoul wrote:I've actually seen exactly what you were talking about when I was up in Newburgh last week. My guess would be that someone (I didn't look at the segments in WME) made the road US-9 instead of US-9W (what it probably should be) in order to get the shield to render correctly. Currently shields do not draw correctly for any highway that has a letter as part of its number (this occurs a lot in New York). In any case, this is a bad reason, because the shield rendering engine is being fixed to accommodate highway markers with letters on them.

Also, I believe at one time the TTS would read US-9W as You Ess Nine West, so the W may have been removed to prevent confusion on the road that actually runs north/south. I think that's supposed to be fixed now - so as if the W is in the same word (not separated by a space) as a highway number (in this case, US-9), it will be read as W and not West. So I would imagine the road should be changed back to US-9W.

Any thoughts from Hudson Valley area managers?


I figured out what was going on. Here are my findings.

1) In the West Point area, the highway is labelled as US-9w, with a lowercase W, no space.
2) On the livemap, that shows as labelled.
3) In the Waze app map it shows a shielded 9, no W
4) In the Waze app route highlighter, it shows as 9 in a box, no W
5) In direction lists, both browser and app, it shows as US-9w
6) I don't see anywhere that it is milabelled as US-9 withoyt the W, sorry PhantomSould
7) Speech? Dunno, I wish there was a way to force Waze to speak out a series of directions without traveling, so we could test this sort of thing. Ditto getting a route in the editor using the unposted changes, so we can verify that we produce good results without having to wait for an update (especially since if we found out its wrong, that means another day's cycle to fix, frustrating for other motorists, frustrating for the editor). But 'm off topic now.

So basically, the user's problem was a bug in way that I was not aware of for lettered shields.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby qwaletee » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:23 pm

Update on 9W. Text to speech says West. Ouch. I can't see manually updating every segment to use 9'w' instead of 9w. Also, I believe the quotes do show up, so 9'w' would be a problem. Maybe 'US-9w'?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby qwaletee » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:22 am

orbitc wrote:Today Waze pronounced this as Garden State Pkwy N (enn) NOT as North


I have observed that this could be happening when my phone is bogged down with other tasks. Perhaps the thread that expands abbreviations has a low priority, and if it doesn't run in time, Waze just reads it as-is.

Found another fun one: User report that "wrong street name. penn st is not Pennsylvania" and indeed it isn't. I've single-quoted it where I could (part of it is beyond my editable area).
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