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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby sketch » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:33 pm

bretmcvey wrote:
bgodette wrote:
mapcat wrote:Then the customers of the business would be directed to the loading dock. Whether that's better than the residential street is debatable.

Once internal addressing is activated, and business addresses are properly edited, the need for the back driveway will go away, so why include it in the best practices now?
You don't wish the UPS/Truck driver running Waze to pollute historical data?


Wouldn't placing a segment behind as a private road type have a lower priority than the parking lot road type? Would that still keep routing more likely to the front via the parking lot segments?

In a word, no. It'll route you to the segment nearest the destination point regardless of type. It's all the segments between you and that last one that make a difference.


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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby sketch » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:44 am

bgodette wrote:
mapcat wrote:
bgodette wrote: and along the store-fronts and backs.

Are segments behind the stores necessary, considering we don't know that the pin will always be closer to the lot in front? Employees and deliveries should be able to find their way.
Yes, especially if the back is next to residential.

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What is the rationale for this? I was routed to a residential neighborhood recently because the Pep Boys didn't have the parking lot in front of the store mapped. The building itself is back against the residential street behind it. Surely the idea should be to get you as close as possible to the Google pin on the right side?
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby sketch » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:08 pm

shawndoc wrote:Just wanted to add to the discussion from a few pages ago.. Add supermarket's to one of the landmarks that turn up when searching.

So does "Museum/visitor center/monument" and "Junction/interchange".

I don't know that type is actually a problem for landmarks anymore.
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby sketch » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:34 pm

jasonh300 wrote:
txemt wrote:I've started getting URs for the San Antonio airport. When I plug it into the nav, it directs me to the front entrance, but people are going being routed to the back, lately and I don't know what's changed.


I had a similar complaint about MSY. I've tried to duplicate it in the app and on Livemap, but nothing I search will route me anywhere except to the terminal building. I don't know what they could possibly be doing different, and of course, these are all the ones who don't respond to the conversations in the UR, so I haven't been able to gather any further info.

It may depend on where you are when you start the route.
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby skbun » Tue May 28, 2013 12:29 pm

jasonh300 wrote:
skbun wrote:
On a related note, did Waze fix 'the bug' where newly added stations can't populate price data?


Drawing in a gas station that isn't in the database doesn't do anything but create a useless landmark. I don't know if this is a bug. I think the missing gas stations have to be added from the back end.


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I found the thing I was looking for, but it doesn't answer the actual question of progress made toward fixing this:

viewtopic.php?p=418161#p418161

Adding stations: Stations which are added to Waze as a new landmark, will not appear in app search results or be updatable until Waze implements some new code and update process on the server side. Go ahead and add stations which do not appear and for which you cannot find an imported station. They will be live in the app once Waze makes their code changes.


This was said about six weeks ago; no word yet though that I've seen.
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby skbun » Mon May 27, 2013 3:18 am

jasonh300 wrote:One thing I'd like to mention is that I'd like to see the quick link to Parking Lots removed from the Landmarks pulldown in the editor. I really don't think Gas Stations needs to be there anymore after the import, but I guess that could be useful for countries where the gas stations have not yet been imported. They're both inviting people to use them improperly now.


I'm going to just say 'don't think this is a good idea', here. I have added at least 50 gas stations SINCE the import that are in fact there. Mostly in more rural areas. The third party import was an excellent start, here, but I've solved many 'missing station' URs and added others. Compare notes with Gasbuddy's map sometime; there is still lots of work to do.

On a related note, did Waze fix 'the bug' where newly added stations can't populate price data?

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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby skbun » Sun May 26, 2013 12:50 am

mapcat wrote:I wasn't there, so I don't know the context, but "as much content as possible" does not make a map better. It has the opposite effect.


Yep, definitely. Maybe the thing to keep in mind is that a LANDMARK has a purpose on a map; to assist in orientation and direction in navigation. If it's not doing that, it really doesn't need to be there.

If Waze implements pushpin 'navigate to' spots on the map, the way house numbers will work, a lot of "landmarks" taking up real estate really could go, IMHO.

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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby skbun » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:28 pm

Yeah. I'm just wondering the status because depending, it'd mean I could start doing cleanup according to that standard (and believe me, in Northern California, there would be a LOT to do. Not to mention half the bigger landmarks having the name 'No city, California, Mexico' when the automated script couldn't figure out the city.)
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby skbun » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:52 pm

Sooo.... '[USA] Landmark Guidelines - Request for Comments' is now a locked thread with no further action mentioned, and I see no further discussion of this anywhere else in the US forums. Is the CT landmark standard now the national standard, or...?
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby skbun » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:45 pm

CBenson wrote:
AndyPoms wrote:See: http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23354
Adding a new landmark of Gas station type will NOT add the station to the list. It will add it to the map, and if you enter a name, you will be able to search and navigate to it - just like any other landmark - but won't be able to update prices.

So there is no current reason to add a gas station landmark (in the US), right?


Actually from what I understand, there is, because in the beta version of the WME, editors CAN 'add information about gas stations beyond the fact that it exists', and at some point this will be made production as well.

Best practice at this point: if it's a gas station, create a landmark for it with its brand name, and more magic will happen later.
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