kentsmith9 wrote:If the "Avoid Toll Roads" feature looks at your map changes or my original map changes (only at the toll booth) the bridge is avoided. Since both methods also prevent you from using the segments before the toll booth (yours because it is marked toll and mine because there is no routing that will not bypass the toll booth), both methods will result in the same successful route avoiding the toll booth.
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:I have a very small dog in this fight.
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:My understanding from previous threads was to mark every segment which is explicitly a toll-based road. There are exceptions throughout the US where you can get on and off portions of a "toll road" without paying a toll and for these roads, we cannot mark all sections. For those I thought we were marking only the plaza locations, or ramps to the same.
crazycomputingdotnet wrote:AlanOfTheBerg wrote:This was, perhaps also, for the reason that if Waze decides to render a toll road graphically on the app, that we'd want there to be a visual representation of the toll road itself, not just the plaza, where that is feasible to do.
For visual representation they are going to have to have a road type for the color seperate from the actual toll flag so we can mark the sections that are from begining to end toll that may not have the ability to actually have the toll flag on it for routing purposes. It isn't going to be easy to see a 10m segment of toll road that is actually going through only the booth.
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:This was, perhaps also, for the reason that if Waze decides to render a toll road graphically on the app, that we'd want there to be a visual representation of the toll road itself, not just the plaza, where that is feasible to do.
Pretty much. For one-way tolls there's no way around having to have a split section, fortunately road geometry at major one-way tolls already means its split. For closed toll systems (no way on/off without paying) all segments can be marked. For open toll, eg Garden State Parkway, only the segments going through a toll-plaza/transponder reader should be marked.kentsmith9 wrote:I had been marking the bridges using the following procedure. Because you cannot get on the bridge without getting through that one toll gate, I assumed that meant we only need to mark the segment(s) that passed through the toll gate(s). Since technically the bridge should be one segment to the other side (one for each direction on some bridges) until the next junction (when the toll is no longer applicable anyway), there was no need to mark segments after the initial toll segment.
On the approach to the toll booth side again I am only marking the section that passed through the toll booth assuming it made no difference for the upcoming "Avoid Toll" option how many segments were marked before the actual booth for the feature to work.
My objective was to minimize the number of segments that required Toll management. This seemed to best meet the agreed toll road procedures I was reviewing in the related discussion threads, unless I missed some threads along the way. I am happy to support a different procedure accepted by the community if this causes problems I did not consider.
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:tibble wrote:If the us-13 bay bridge mean the bay bridge tunnel, I did that the first day I could
I do believe it's done, but also was PMing with kentsmith9 about it in terms of which segments were marked as toll, etc. If it is complete, please move it to the completed section. I'm not planning on checking on all of these myself!
kentsmith9 wrote:On the approach to the toll booth side again I am only marking the section that passed through the toll booth assuming it made no difference for the upcoming "Avoid Toll" option how many segments were marked before the actual booth for the feature to work.
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