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Named Bridges

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:01 pm
by rottielover
Here in the St. Louis area, many of the local radio stations name the bridges when giving traffic reports. Example: "There's ice on the discovery bridge.", but they never/seldom name the Highway.

It occurred to me that if you're not from around here you're not going to know what highway to avoid.

Is this a common thing around the country? If it is, maybe we should be land-marking named bridges?

So since the landmark discussion is still locked, I wanted to make sure this point get's talked about.

Thanks!

Re: Named Bridges

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:01 pm
by AlanOfTheBerg
Landmarks are one thing, but how about the roadway itself taking on the name of the bridge? It's been that way since basemap in Portland, OR and I've not wanted to change it because it's important to TTS matching signage.

Re: Named Bridges

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:11 am
by AlanOfTheBerg
AndyPoms wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Landmarks are one thing, but how about the roadway itself taking on the name of the bridge? It's been that way since basemap in Portland, OR and I've not wanted to change it because it's important to TTS matching signage.
Will you ever get TTS for the Bridge Name anyway? Most major bridges have other roads or ramps leading up to them that will get announced, not the Bridge Name.
Situation-dependent. You are correct that in some cases, the ramp name leading to the bridge will be named if there are other wayfinder infos to include. However, there are many approaches without named ramps, so Waze picks up the segment name of the bridge for TTS. At least, last time I checked, it would work this way.

Here are two bridges this should work the 2nd way I wrote about: https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat ... 0,41041253

EDIT: Route1: http://www.waze.com/livemap/?zoom=15&lo ... g=41051868

Route2: http://www.waze.com/livemap/?zoom=15&lo ... g=71142084

Route3: http://www.waze.com/livemap/?zoom=15&lo ... g=41058553


EDIT2: just noticed that the Burnside Bridge, to the north, is not named as a bridge. :)

Re: Named Bridges

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:09 pm
by AndyPoms
It's already in the landmark guidelines as
1.10 Bridge - Major Bridges Mapped as a rectangle or arc only to include the road. Please see local Wiki Pages / local Area Managers for information on what is considered "Major" and mapped for this category in your area.
.

No one presented any objections in either of the reviews the guidelines went through to landmarking Major Bridges.

I've been trying to get through the comments and figure out where we are, BUT thanks to a blizzard, work has had to take a priority.

Re: Named Bridges

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:19 pm
by AndyPoms
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Landmarks are one thing, but how about the roadway itself taking on the name of the bridge? It's been that way since basemap in Portland, OR and I've not wanted to change it because it's important to TTS matching signage.
Will you ever get TTS for the Bridge Name anyway? Most major bridges have other roads or ramps leading up to them that will get announced, not the Bridge Name.

Re: Named Bridges

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:37 pm
by CBenson
I would just add that by having the bridge as a named segment, the bridge name now shows up in the beta purple route name boxes. I find this to be beneficial.

Re: Named Bridges

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:18 pm
by rottielover
Awesome, thanks for the quick update.

Re: Named Bridges

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:45 pm
by rottielover
Spil wrote:
rottielover wrote:... It occurred to me that if you're not from around here you're not going to know what highway to avoid. ...
Technically, it shouldn't matter ... since Waze should already have picked up on the traffic jam caused by drivers slowing down by the ice and redirected you to the fastest/shortest alternative route. (In a perfect Waze world, that is! ;) )
Ah, the other main reason I got involved with editing in the first place... Around here especially, even when Waze know's about the traffic, it often doesn't route around, or picks the worst possible route around. Hopefully *knocks on wood*, the AM's and I have managed to clean most of that up.

Re: Named Bridges

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:24 am
by Spil
rottielover wrote:... It occurred to me that if you're not from around here you're not going to know what highway to avoid. ...
Technically, it shouldn't matter ... since Waze should already have picked up on the traffic jam caused by drivers slowing down by the ice and redirected you to the fastest/shortest alternative route. (In a perfect Waze world, that is! ;) )