US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

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US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

Postby sketch » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:56 pm

Brand is what shows in the client gas search list. That's it, far as I can tell. For all I know, the brand/name dichotomy is so we can label the landmark "Circle K" on the map, but when searching gas prices, we will see "Exxon", the relevant gas brand. Just a guess.

The problem with "Unbranded" is that it suggests a completely blank, generic gas station. "Unbranded" is an imperfect and improper substitute for "brand not in list". Used to be, like I said, we could substitute Name in for those stations that don't match a given brand. It's a necessary feature that needs to come back. If you're on a corner with Shell, Danny & Clyde's, and Quicky's Discount, if it shows "Shell", "Unbranded", and "Unbranded" (or blank), it's useless.


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US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:37 am

US Mappers,

The following guidance on gas station landmarks in the US is what the US Champs have figured out in terms of how we should proceed.

Background

Prior to April 14, 2013, all US gas stations which were updatable from the app were not visible, updatable, and could not be added from the Waze Map Editor. The Gas Station landmarks people created in the editor had no relation whatsoever to the gas prices people could search and update in the app.

The stations visible in the app were a separate data element and linked to an external data provider.


The Merge

On the evening of April 13 (US Time), Waze started a merge of the gas station data with the landmarks layer in the Waze Map Editor.

As part of the merge process, Waze tried to minimize duplicated gas station data, but it is inevitable that some stations were not able to be merged due to incompatible or mismatched data in either the existing landmarks layer or the data from the 3rd party provider.


What We See in the Waze Map Editor

After the merge, for stations which either did not have any kind of matchable station, or where the matching failed, you will see very small gas station landmarks. In fact, you probably need to be down to the 20m zoom level in order to see most of them. Here is an example of the small size of the imported landmark:

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You will often find that the updatable station location is 1-3 blocks away from the actual station location. It is important to visit the actual gas station in the editor, and then search around it for the imported station landmark.


How do you know if the station is from an import?

  • All stations imported on April 13 have their name set to ALL CAPS
  • All imported stations do not have a City or State assigned
  • Until someone edits the station, it will also show a last update of "April 13, 2013 by staff"


What if there is a duplicate?

If there is a station which is a duplicate, that is, there is a landmark already in Waze with the station info, and now there is another station with an ALL CAPS name, then we have a duplicate situation.

DO NOT DELETE THE IMPORTED DATA WITH THE ALL CAPS NAME.

You need to delete the other landmark in Waze which is in the correct location and has the correct name, and was updated/created previously by a Waze map editor.


What must be updated

In order for the data to be useful to the Waze community, all the details of the station need to be updated. This includes: Name, Address, Phone number, Brand, City, State, Country. These are shown graphically surrounded by red boxes below. Note the Address line between the Name and Phone boxes is only for the street address. The City and State is located in the lower Address box.

Naming Information
  • Store Numbers are NOT needed in Names, please remove them
  • For Gas Stations that are part of Highway Service Plazas/Rest Areas please use the following format <NAME> - <Service Plaza/Rest Area> (<Road Name & Direction>). Please match local signage when determining if the location is a "Service Plaza", "Rest Area" or whatever the signage calls it. For example on I-95 in Madison, CT the two landmarks are named: Mobil - Service Plaza (I-95 N) & Mobil - Service Plaza (I-95 S).

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Brand Selection

If you know what brand gasoline a station sells, you should select it as the Brand. Stations named after their brands, such as big companies like Shell, 76, Mobil, Chevron, are easy to identify the brand which should be selected. Smaller or non-national stations may be harder to identify. Some are their own brand, and some buy a specific larger nationwide brand of gasoline. Do some research to find out this information. If it isn't clear or information isn't available, mark these as Unbranded.

Big-box and one-stop-type stores like Fred Meyer, Costco, Sams Club, Home Depot, Safeway, Winco, etc., often buy a larger national gas brand. However, to allow drivers to select their preferred retail brand (rather than Brand of gasoline), select the store name as the brand as well.

For any other stations you cannot determine the gasoline brand, select Unbranded.


Current known issues

Adding stations: Stations which are added to Waze as a new landmark, will not appear in app search results or be updatable until Waze implements some new code and update process on the server side. Go ahead and add stations which do not appear and for which you cannot find an imported station. They will be live in the app once Waze makes their code changes.

Was station data merged or not? We can easily identify a newly imported station which didn't find an existing landmark to match against. But what if the match did succeed and a previously-existing landmark is now linked to the gas station data for updates? How do we identify those? We are unsure at this time.

Brands are being reviewed The list of brands is currently extremely long and contains dozens of names which are not brands. There are actually very few actual brand-name gasolines.
Last edited by sketch on Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:57 pm, edited 5 times in total.
Reason: Updated branding recommendation
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US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 13 merge)

Postby sketch » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:32 pm

I guess this "import" (or whatever it is?) wasn't a one-time thing? What is the status of the link between Waze and this third-party provider?

They opened the new Costco about a month and a half ago, and I added the gas station manually, with (MEMBERS ONLY) in the name to prevent people from going there without knowing. A few days later, I did a gas search, and found another "Costco" in nearly the same location--except its location in the client is in another part of the parking lot.

I wanted to delete mine and move the "imported"/synced one to the right spot so we don't have two, but I can't find the new "Costco" in the editor at all.

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US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 13 merge)

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:42 pm

Costco is a store name. I do not believe it owns any refineries. It purchases has from another company. Kirkland is also a pseudo- brand name, IMO. They just buy someone else's stuff and put their name on it. Costco makes nothing. Except cash.
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Re: US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

Postby qwaletee » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:58 pm

Can we get this thread unpinned?
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Re: US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

Postby coontex » Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:55 am

I agree that there are some that do this but from what I have seen it is mostly ones without plr's.


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Re: US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

Postby jemay » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:09 pm

The client may not suppress the message, but when it is processed on the backend it may not pollute the speed data on the main roads.?.
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Re: US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

Postby coontex » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:53 pm

I thought that I read the same a few months ago and that is why I was asking. We might need to get clarity on this.
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Re: US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

Postby jasonh300 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:49 pm

sketch wrote:
mdavidsonjr wrote:The gas station landmark is not suppressing speed data today. This is the first time I have noticed this in a while. I got 2 are you in traffic alerts while sitting a stations today. Is the land mark supposed to suppress this or not . If not then I might need to draw a Peking lot road there.

I think it only suppresses "missing road" MPs. I don't think it actually suppresses jam detection.


I though we were told that it does suppress jam detection, hence one of the reasons why you don't want the gas station landmark to overlap onto the roadway.
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Re: US Gas Stations Guidance (after April 2013 merge)

Postby coontex » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:50 pm

Thanks for the reply. I guess most of the other stations I go to have parting lot road so I don't see this.
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