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Places and release today

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:05 pm

All,

With Places being released today, maybe I'm just more anxious than normal, but I think we need to get the word out on how we feel Places should be set in terms of Area or Point. Because the map is going to start filling up with POIs now. I feel like something needs to be put onto the wiki ASAP and a thread ready to roll to the US editors, etc.

The landmarks in the US wiki page needs an overhaul quickly, if so. (Renamed, revamped)

Thoughts?
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Re: Places and release today

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:55 pm

I started a thread in the wiki form. Bare-bones page on Places started. It's only guidance on whether a Place should be a Point or Area for now.
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Re: Places and release today

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:14 pm

The release was delayed.

Places is not google. Please see the places thread in the wiki forum for more info.
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Re: Places and release today

Postby AndyPoms » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:06 am

It's being released today? I'm still seeing all the landmarks locked on the production server.
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Re: Places and release today

Postby CBenson » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:36 pm

I agree with your apprehension. But, I not sure what to say though. I'm not sure what the properties of the places are yet.
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Re: Places and release today

Postby DwarfLord » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:53 pm

As an emergency stopgap measure, we could add a big bold note to the landmark guidance saying yes, the tools have changed, but until further notice please respect existing guidance.

As existing guidance is more restrictive than where we are probably going, this should at least err on the conservative side and buy time to refine the guidance. That's better than implicitly endorsing a "landmark rush" that could have us in cleanup mode for weeks...

Edit: although I was a major contributor to the current Landmarks page, whoever edits it should have at least a foggy clue about the new system, which I do not :mrgreen:
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Re: Places and release today

Postby nzahn1 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:47 pm

Places release today? This should be fun.
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Re: Places and release today

Postby vectorspace » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:41 pm

I guess I am a bit confused by this.

It seemed to me that landmark guidance was stalled for about a year or so when comments on the topic were locked. The Wiki landmarks page, unless updated recently, was mostly empty. I saw some good work on rest area detail a while back. I also saw quite different opinions from different editors and Champs about what should and what should not be a landmark. I have seen people wholesale delete landmarks that editors have spent time entering, sure, some were not reasonable, but not all were bad. This rude behavior on the part of those deleting, without notifying the creators, has caused us to loose good editors. We had guidance from Waze top management to add more content at the last Meetup, but that was not resolved.

I am concerned by a rush to try to put a lid on this when things have been stalled for a long time.

I am not sure how Places (I assume you're talking about Google Places) is going to intersect with Waze. Is there a source for this where we can all get up to speed?
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Re: Places and release today

Postby vectorspace » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:41 pm

OK... for others who have been busy on other things, the link to that thread is here:

https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=276&t=86461

I now see the perceived urgency around this topic and, perhaps, why some work on the Landmarks topic was delayed as it would intersect with development of Waze Places.
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