yoyo-42 wrote:As for the meat of the post, as a new editor I've been surprised that there isn't a way to leave notes and hints near awkward places, to help future editors. I know people are now using small landmarks to do that now but it would be so much better if it was a proper function.
There's a road near me which is blocked by long term roadworks so I've had to split it. But it would be better to have a correct road and a 'long term road block' hazard that the routing algorithms would take note of, which wouldn't time out but maybe turns up as a system error every week or so so it doesn't get forgotten?
Quite agree. What I've been doing is splitting the closed roads in WME, then putting a UR on the Live Map at that location asking people to PM me before making any changes. Some of the other AMs around me are doing that as well.
Unfortunately, it was one of those very splits that he edited, having closed the UR without contacting me, that led me to send him a PM. I reiterated the reasons for the split, and said I'd redone it and posted a new UR, and this seems to have been taken as a major criticism. I'm happy to apologise here in public, as that was not my intention nor had I used any intemperate words, but he had overwritten some of my work without reading the UR correctly and contacting me.
Double unfortunately, it was me who queried whether the particular stretch of road he referred to should be dualled, as I wasn't convinced it met the wiki requirements for showing it as such. Again, I don't believe I worded it in such a way to put down, but clearly it's been taken that way so, again, I apologise.
It is unfortunate that new, keen, editors are finding some of our major cities are pretty much locked down, certainly in the UK, because we've suffered a spate of malicious editing recently, and a lot of hard work has had to be redone. Perhaps we need to update the wiki to reflect this, and are a little too short with our words in our posts and PMs.
If there is any lesson to be learnt from this, it's that perhaps we need to remind new editors (and old) that there are a lot of people who have put many, many, hours of work into the maps, and that before we go and change something, we need to check how recently were the last edits (so is it the base import, or has work been done?) and think about whether we're going to change something that someone has already spent a lot of hours on, so has a vested interest. That's why we have the forum and PMs so that we can communicate. We need to encourage all editors to make use of these facilities, regularly.