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[Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:00 am
by moweez
Anticipating the restructuring of the international Wiki pages, I have a proposal for the English basic version of the BeNeLux Beginner Guide. It is renamed to parallel the international page. Please have a look and put your comments here as a reply:

BeNeLux Map Editing Quick-start Guide

Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:51 pm
by Dutchdirt
Heel goed stuk. Veel beter dan de guide die ik een maand of 6 geleden heb gelezen.
2 opmerkingen :
1 spelfout denk ik in: "Otherwise, you might as well get overfeed with information" overfeed moet zijn overfed.
2 het deel over walking trails en PB 's kan mi een stuk compacter. Heb nu het idee dat sommige dingen er dubbel instaan.

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Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:26 am
by stelling28
Fully agree with Dutchdirt, Heel goed stuk.

I also have some comments.

The sentences '(only if one of the above arguments count)' look a little bit strange to me. Personally I would replace them with a sentence like: Only add PB (or WT) if one of the above arguments apply. So without parenthesis.

Further for PB's a learned from an experienced editor in the forum not to remove PB's, also not when the arguments don't apply. Better correct them, if needed. Reason is that every level 1 can add them again and someone probably will. So better correct them and leave them. Is that something to add to this guide?

Personally I would not explain roundabouts in a beginners guide. Personally I have needed it 2 times in 1,5 years of editing. But I agree it is debatable.

Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:22 pm
by moweez
It is always difficult to decide what needs in and what needs to be left out for this phase. Happy to hear your comments. I'm awaiting other comments for now.

Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:14 pm
by moweez

Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:17 pm
by moweez
Dutchdirt wrote:1 spelfout denk ik in: "Otherwise, you might as well get overfeed with information" overfeed moet zijn overfed.

dank, gecorrigeerd

Dutchdirt wrote:2 het deel over walking trails en PB 's kan mi een stuk compacter. Heb nu het idee dat sommige dingen er dubbel instaan.

stelling28 wrote:The sentences '(only if one of the above arguments count)' look a little bit strange to me. Personally I would replace them with a sentence like: Only add PB (or WT) if one of the above arguments apply. So without parenthesis.

It seems better to get this part out here, and correct the sentences in the detailed description (to do)

Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:23 pm
by moweez
stelling28 wrote:Further for PB's a learned from an experienced editor in the forum not to remove PB's, also not when the arguments don't apply. Better correct them, if needed. Reason is that every level 1 can add them again and someone probably will. So better correct them and leave them. Is that something to add to this guide?


It is difficult to choose a method. The disadvantage of this method is that if you leave them, others will copy the example and don't understand why it is better not to do it. I just deleted about 46 roads from a user who explained it was a necessary addition because of learning his daughter how to get to school on her bicycle - I''m afraid that the consequences in the end, i.e., contamination of the speed data because of cycling with Waze on, do more harm. i personally rather delete added roads, and explain why.

Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:42 am
by stelling28
How about to add to https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/User:Moweez/Verbeter_je_vaardigheden#Voetgangers-_en_fietspaden the following rule for L3+ editors.

When a pedestrian boardwalk has a lock level lower then 3 you have 3 options to correct.
A) If you think it is correct that it is there, correct if needed the segment and lock it L3.
B) If it is added longer than 6 months ago and rule A does not apply, just delete it.
C) In all other cases inform the user who added it via PM, HO or Slack why you will delete the segment and then delete it. In the explanation use this link to the Beginner guide.

The L3 lock is menthioned in the Beginners guide. This way after some time most pedestrians boardwalks will be or deleted or approved by a L3+.

Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:39 am
by moweez
I think it maybe even would be better to add it to https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Benelux_Pedestrian_Boardwalk
and keep the descriptions in the other docs short

Re: [Page Update Proposal] Beginner Guide/Quick-start

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:02 pm
by stelling28
moweez wrote:I think it maybe even would be better to add it to https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/Benelux_Pedestrian_Boardwalk
and keep the descriptions in the other docs short


Agree