Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby Venatius » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:01 pm

I've been having some confusion with bluetooth audio myself. When I'm streaming music via BT off of my phone, Waze does the following:

Route to Speakers off: Waze meekly talks through the music without turning it down/pausing it, and is largely unintelligible.
Route to Speakers on: Waze pauses the music to... say nothing at all.
Prefer Bluetooth: Doesn't exist. Route to Speakers is the only thing in there.

This is one of the relatively few things other GPS apps seem to have a leg up on, so it's frustrating to see such minor imperfections chafing at the experience.
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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:10 pm

It's not "route to speakers" but "route to speaker." This means the internal phone speaker. It could be that audio volume settings for the speaker are set very low? Waze is supposed to duck the currently playing audio. With "play to speaker" on, it will pause the music. That is how it is designed.

Prefer Bluetooth will appear if your phone and car/device have the bluetooth "phone" connection available.

Posting your hardware/software info is always helpful.
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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby gerben » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:38 pm

Isn't the Prefer BT an iOS only option?
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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:29 pm

gerben wrote:Isn't the Prefer BT an iOS only option?

I honestly do not know. Why would this be an iOS-only option? (semi-rhetorical question)
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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby girevikkb » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:14 am

Venatius wrote:I've been having some confusion with bluetooth audio myself. When I'm streaming music via BT off of my phone, Waze does the following:

Route to Speakers off: Waze meekly talks through the music without turning it down/pausing it, and is largely unintelligible.
Route to Speakers on: Waze pauses the music to... say nothing at all.
Prefer Bluetooth: Doesn't exist. Route to Speakers is the only thing in there.

This is one of the relatively few things other GPS apps seem to have a leg up on, so it's frustrating to see such minor imperfections chafing at the experience.


In my case, with "Route to speaker" off while streaming music, I can hear the directions just fine. But I also just hear a pause in the music with "route" turned on. If I turn off BT on my phone I can hear the directions just fine over the phone speaker.

Support said that the ticket I had opened with them had been submitted to deveolpment, but still no word.
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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby Venatius » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:44 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
gerben wrote:Isn't the Prefer BT an iOS only option?

I honestly do not know. Why would this be an iOS-only option? (semi-rhetorical question)


Regardless of why, it starts to appear it may be. As for hardware, I'm running a Galaxy S3 (T999). The behavior seems to have changed though. Route to Speaker now causes the music - and directions - to suddenly snap to the phone speaker rather than bluetooth speakers when directions are given. Their volume is unchanged.
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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby Nacron » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:23 pm

The new beta version for android lowers media volume while giving directions

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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby AlexanderZwo » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:24 pm

Hi @ all,

Joining your forum for the first time, I'm having exactly the problems you are discussing. I am using a Samsung GT-S 7562, also called Galaxy S Duos. "Duos" stands for Dual SIM and I am using that kind of Samsung Phones since the days of SGH-D 880.

The Samsung runs on Android 4.0.4. My car is a Volkswagen Golf Variant, I think you call it Jetta Wagon in the States. It is equipped with a Radio, which is called RCD 310 here and with a Premium Bluetooth Kit (VW Phone).

This works together well when it comes to telephone audio and media audio via BT and it struggles a little with Phone Book Application Protocol (PBAP), but this is a known issue and I had it already with the previous phone.

I got to know Waze occasionally and I think I like it a lot. I first of all fully agree with what Venatius writes:

1. I do not have a “Prefer Bluetooth” button on the “Sound” page

2. I do have a checkbox “Route sound to speaker” on the “Sound” page

3. If I check the box “Route sound to speaker” and the Galaxy is not connected to VW Phone telephone audio and media audio in the car, the prompts are coming via the phone speaker.

4. If I check the box “Route sound to speaker” and the Galaxy is connected to VW Phone telephone audio and media audio in the car, no prompts are coming via phone speakers but if I have the Galaxy MP3 Player on, the music is interrupted wherever a prompt should be.

5. If I do NOT check the box “Route sound to speaker” and put the BT-Audio of the car on, I hear the prompts via the car VW Phone media audio, but if the MP3 player is on as well, I hear music and prompts simultaneously as the music is not paused. So I cannot understand the prompts.

Principally all this makes perfect sense and is not a bug so far. As Alan rightly says, Waze is probably meant to work like this. The user shall usually keep the box “Route sound to speaker” checked. And as some of you can see with iPhones the sound is now meant to go via the telephone audio and not via the media audio. At the same time MP3s are interrupted in order not to miss anything.

This way has the huge advantage that you can listen to the regular radio and get the prompts. You even can leave the radio off and the prompts will come through.

The disadvantage is it does not work with Android 4.0.4. The prompts don't come via VW Phone telephone audio. I have tried it all but I have no idea what’s up. Maybe I have forgotten to get a setting right but I am afraid that the usage of BT telephone audio service under Android 4.0.4. is buggy indeed.

I would be grateful for recommendations to get this solved. I will post this report also as a ticket to support.

Regards from Germany
Hubert

EDIT: Yesterday evening we tried the same with my wife's Galaxy S III, running on Android 4.1.1. Exactly the same effects... Interesting by the way: The S III can connect via Remote Sim Access Protocoll (RSAP), which means that the car borrows the SIM from the cellphone and establishes the telephone connection on own hardware. At this moment the cellphone looses network connection and cannot do Internet anymore, which causes Waze to show "Searching Network Connection" and to be unable to calculate the optimum route. Is this the same with all smartphone navigations or Waze specific?

AND... I learned in the FAQ that Waze wants us NOT to check the "Route Sound To Speaker Option". So my theory that they want to send the prompts via the telephone audio seems to be wrong. They want to send them via the media audio.

In that case you cannnot hear regular radio and you cannot leave the radio off. But then they really have a bug as they should at least stop the MP3 player when it is in use as long as the prompts are announced, like they do, when the box is checked.

Bottomline: The BT subject still needs some attention...

Regards
Hubert
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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby kuduboet » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:34 pm

So my issue is somewhat similar, somewhat different but relates to Bluetooth and speaker so I thought I would put i there. I am using an iPhone 4S with a Jabra Tour Bluetooth speaker and this combo works great for phone calls and for streaming podcasts etc. When I use it with Waze, it sort of of works. Pretty much anytime I launch Waze and choose to Navigate somewhere it starts off working fine, let's go and all that happy stuff. Then at some point in the drive I just stop hearing turn by turn voice commands and even I stop navigating and restart, no luck, turn off and then back on the Tour speaker, no luck, but if I "switch off" and then come back in to Waze and resume navigation it starts up again with the voice prompts. The strange thing is sometimes it will go 5 minutes and then stop the voice commands, sometimes will go 30 minutes before I lose them. Also, I have tried to find a pattern, is it after a call, at a certain point in the route, etc and I can not find any correlation between the times that it stops working, it seems totally random. Has anyone else experienced anything like this with Bluetooth?
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Re: Sound to Speaker / Bluetooth?

Postby TurboLed » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:34 pm

Android users; to achieve what you want (hear directions when radio is off/listening radio) you should try an app on Google Play called "AudioBT", this uses the Bluetooth incoming call channel for routing audio from any application.
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