Tom Tom etc.

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Re: Tom Tom etc.

Postby Daknife » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:19 pm

Umm due to the low user base in your area Waze may need to keep up with apple, but in most areas it's still definitely the other way around.
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Re: Tom Tom etc.

Postby hohum3001 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:02 pm

daknife wrote:Start pushing it on all your friends, getting the word out is the only way to improve the service. Oh that and edit like crazy to make sure Waze knows there are alternate routes that work.

Yeah, I push it hard already but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference - for the last week or so there were practically no wazers on the major Sydney routes I was on. There's 5 million people in this city; if you picked it up and up put it in America it'd be like the 11th largest city or something (or so I've heard). We're not that small. But waze just hasn't caught on here.

Yesterday I actually forgot to turn waze on. I'm sold on the idea & I'm a 100% fanatic. And I forgot. Knowing myself well eventually I will stop using it altogether & it'll just be one of life's disappointments. And the reason will be that while I believed in it, and wanted to support it, @ the end of the day it just didn't have enough users to make it work.

A very wize friend of mine once told me to never bring a problem without also bringing a solution. So what I'd say is then is this: given I'm willing to pay for Tom Tom data that I can get via Apple Maps for free, then if waze licensed that data - or maybe data from several sources - to keep up with Apple Maps at the very least - then waze might be more useful - and I'd pay a subscription for that. Or waze needs to find another way to distinguish itself. Nobody ever chats in Sydney - how can you chat & drive? So the social networking part isn't working quite so well here. What else can waze do that nobody else does? Petrol prices - that's a good one - though not really applicable here in Aus. Police is good, but heck I can't report that while I'm driving! Deals? Combine with groupon or something for discount vouchers? "You're passing McDonalds - quote voucher XYZ for a free Little Mac"? I dunno. I suppose that with 20 million users you're not that worried about little old Sydney.

btw - the tom tom data via Apple Maps also sucked a few times. So it seems that I'm just stuck.
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Re: Tom Tom etc.

Postby Daknife » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:18 am

Start pushing it on all your friends, getting the word out is the only way to improve the service. Oh that and edit like crazy to make sure Waze knows there are alternate routes that work.
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Re: Tom Tom etc.

Postby hohum3001 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:38 am

Today waze sucked for me. No help at all, & lots of traffic stuck everywhere. Need more wazers :| Apple Maps was more useful. My wife tells me it uses tom tom data. At least waze would be happy to know that our Roads & Traffic Authority's app was less useful than tits on a bull.
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Re: Tom Tom etc.

Postby hohum3001 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:54 am

ncc1701v wrote:
hohum3001 wrote:iOS Apple maps sucks, but it won't forever.

You think so, do you? :-)

They couldn't possibly continue to suck so hard could they? :shock:
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Re: Tom Tom etc.

Postby ncc1701v » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:55 am

hohum3001 wrote:waze is nearly useless in most parts of Sydney Australia because there's not enough users yet. But waze has wet my appetite for traffic avoidance now & I'm thinking of going & getting a tom tom as a commercial service.

Anyone got experience with tom tom in a waze poor area? Is it any good? Does waze offer stuff tom tom doesn't?

If you're looking for traffic avoidance I was never impressed with TomTom - reports varied widely in accuracy, and they were usually delayed. Waze is good at noticing traffic when it starts, but not so good at noticing when it stops. At least it's more deterministic than TomTom was in my experience.

hohum3001 wrote:Would it be possible, if I paid some kind of subscription fee or something, for waze to integrate tom tom's data? Or is that just too complex?

Probably impossible given their respective business models.

hohum3001 wrote:iOS Apple maps sucks, but it won't forever.

You think so, do you? :-)
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