Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby AB1304 » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:56 pm

Nezinu kā jums, bet man ar jauno 1.0.3 karti neskenē. Kļūdas neatrod. Vispār neko izdarīt nevaru. Uturn disabled. :lol:
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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby Atuuu » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:34 pm

Unholy, sorry for unlocking this announcement.
First of all, wished to say thanks for trying to improve the map in many ways!
Unfortunately, as Olestas already said, there are a lots of map problems now.
Validator script shows the best almost all of them. Ok, got already access to spreadsheets: I will try to comment about 30 segments later today, maybe 50, but 1300 is much more as I can process even doing my best. :shock:
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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby Atuuu » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:26 am

Sorry for being idle so long (when the baby is borned, there is no time for a good sleep, for waze even less...).
Started to check spreadsheet:
1) There are many links broken or what? From first 30 links only 1 was valid.
2) segments are numbered in random. This is wrong. Neighbor segments should be with very close ID's and located close on map for easier finding them. Existing ID's numbering on imports should be completely re-worked.
3) There are many unneeded geometry nodes. Segments should be as much simple, more robust with clear corners. Bad example 1 (import), bad example 2 (import), good example (simple as possible).
4) Whats that? Why so many segments?
5) Unconfirmed road, duplicate with wrong road type. Our new editors without reading wiki even makes better. :?
6) Started to delete duplicate segments after adding comment in spreadsheet. It's OK?

So my opinion about:
* If this is a pilot project - OK, but needs to improve a lot before doing this in more places. Current version needs too much manual afterwork.
* This could be useful in some small towns with very low waze map base (less than 20-30% roads compared with google maps).
* In Latvia there is very good overall road base, so in our case import like this isn't usable. Maybe Lithuania with much less map detalisation could be a better candidate for such imports.
* Better alternative compared with import like this for Latvia could be some united map works, when all active editors for a week improves one city (for example "Jēkabpils").


Kur palikuši citi aktīvie redaktori? Instigater, Olestas. Visi pārējie? Mums taču ir viena no visdetalizētākajām waze kartēm pasaulē un pati labākā komūna. Apliecinām izstrādātājiem arī šoreiz mūsu saliedētību un pa visiem piebeidzam! Vairs tikai kādi 1300 vai mazāk segmenti tajā dokumentā palikuši. :ugeek: :) Rusjanis dažus segmentus no beigām jau bija apstrādājis. :)
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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby Instigater » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:10 am

Unholy! WTF! :lol:

There is no need for data import in Latvia or at least not the kind of import you did. We already have majority of roads and missing ones are dead-end leading to homestead. This is not like lazy americans where you needed this kind of import for roads to appear!

Is there a posibility to review import prior importing it?

If you really want to help us, please find a way to import nature features - forests, lakes, rivers. These ones are real pain in the ass to draw and even then precision is medicore.
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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby Instigater » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:30 am

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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby Olestas » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:51 pm

Hello Unholy.
First, there is no access to spreadsheets. Edit: Ok, access granted...
Second, why? Why the data import? It made a huge mess :D Please don't repeat it in other cities... I am afraid how it all will look in client after map update. I also imagine user reports about this mess and some new users trying to fix this, making even more mess.
Third. You want us to review ~1300 segments in spreadsheet? That's evil. I just can tell that some segments were missing, but maybe not so necessary. Some segments were already drawn, and now are duplicated. Most segments also have all u-turns enabled, which is not needed now. Also duplicated segments are off gps tracks..
Fourth. The better thing could have been just good quality Google maps satellite layer.
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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby Olestas » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:13 am

Gaidam, kad tu uzsāksi :D Tie ir google segmenti :D
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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby Olestas » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:31 am

Nakosnedel paskatishos.

Vari mierigi dzest, tur ir punkts izvelnes - duplicate vai already deleted.
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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby Olestas » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:15 pm

Do we need to delete duplicate/not needed segments or not?
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Re: Editor freeze in Latvia 30/7/14

Postby rusjanis » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:45 pm

Atuuu,Olestas kāpēc nesākat aizpildīt? Vēlos redzēt kādu paraugu :)
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