[Feedback Required] Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

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[Feedback Required] Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:24 am

wazers,

Sorry to write this in English, in case our good friend Noam decides to chime in.

With this thread, we'd like to inform you the improvements that are currently undergoing SPECIFIC for Indonesia. The first one is below.

As written in the Wiki, right now, the smallest city that is allowed in WME is Kecamatan, not Kelurahan/Desa. Therefore, we're currently working with the HQ Geo-Ops team to clean up the city.

In addition, we're also trying to clean up all the 'junk' cities that appear in the map, such as "Yogjakarta," "Tangerangb", and all that incorrect/incomplete cities.

It will take some time to clean this mess, since there are 2,000+ cities in Indonesia. So hopefully all Kelurahan/Desa will be merged back to their Kecamatan pretty soon.

If you spot any more of these inconsistencies, just use this thread to reply, along with the Permalinks, as usual, and we'll try to clean them up as well.

In the future, we'll post any more improvements as well here.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby elcitia » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:32 am

Jadi yang digunakan hanya kecamatan untuk ukuran terkecil dalam penamaan di kolom city?
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby heruya » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:33 pm

Bagus dan setuju sekali, ukuran terkecil dari kota adalah kecamatan...siap bantu editing berdasarkan keputusan terakhir ini...
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:38 am

elcitia:

Correct. Anything lower will be incredibly difficult to manage. NO need to put like "Kecamatan, Kota/Kab" in the City field. Just "Kecamatan."

Terus ini hal yang SANGAT PENTING:

JANGANmerubah nama-nama yang SUDAH ada sekarang. Lalu, untuk kota-kota besar seperti Jakarta, Bandung, Surabaya, Makassar, dan sebagainya, JANGAN diubah juga dan dipecah menjadi Kecamatan-kecamatannya. Kecamatan-kecamatan hanya diperlukan untuk daerah-daerah yang Kabupatennya SANGAT besar, untuk memudahkan dan membantu navigasi.

Basically, perubahan ini dilakukan untuk menghilangkan daerah-daerah yang ada "Kabupaten/Kab"-nya, supaya bisa lebih dapat membantu navigasi. Untuk kabupaten-kabupaten yang besar, besar sekali kemungkinan di kabupaten tersebut ada jalan-jalan yang bernama sama. Untuk itulah mengapa Kecamatan diajukan untuk menggantikan Kabupaten-kabupaten.

Jika ada pertanyaan, tolong diajukan dulu di thread ini.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby elcitia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:00 am

Nah ini yang menarik, saya domisili di Jogja, di kabupaten Sleman ini merupakan Kabupaten yang luas, dan ada masalah unik disini, dalam 1 kecamatan saja ada nama jalan yang sama. Pernah saya tanyakan bahwa city tetap masuk dalam kecamatan, tapi kolom street menggunakan tanda kurung () untuk nama dan kelurahannya, misal nama jalan : Cendrawasih (Condong Catur), City: Catur Tunggal. Kalau begitu bagaimana? Nama kecamatan disini juga ada nama kecamatan Depok, apakah akan rancu dengan nama Depok di wilayah lain?
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby Dannylumanauw » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:03 am

Hi kukimonsta,
Whether the editors who understand can make improvements ? or should be request to this thread by sending the permalink ? kindly advice.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:14 am

@elcitia,

For now, since there are no good preferences, let's just put the street name without the (). It will be confusing, yes. However, in cases where the user is looking for a street that he/she is not familiar with, putting the Kelurahan will not help either. For example, if a user from Jakarta is looking for Cendrawasih in Sleman, if you put Cendrawasih (Kel 1) and Cendrawasih (Kel 2), we're not sure whether he/she will know anyway. :)

This is a "open-a-can-of-worms" issue, and there's no good conclusion yet. So don't create more confusions/new standards first. Right now there are a lot of pains already with users putting something like "Kec. A, Kabupaten B" in the city, which is hectic.

@danny,

Don't understand what you mean. Can restate? In Indonesian is fine.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:05 am

After discussions, for cities, the Champs have decided on the following:

  • To avoid more headaches, DO NOT add new cities for now. Just use the surrounding areas for references. If you have to create new roads that are incredibly long (i.e.: 30 km+). Just use the No City option.
  • We'll work hard with HQ to provide the list of cities that have been recorded and official. However, we will not guarantee its availability soon. :)
  • Finally, just use your conscience when creating new cities. If you're a new editor, post a new thread for discussions if you're not sure what to name the cities.

I think this should avoid any more confusions, debate and other things that may not result in anything. :lol:
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby Dannylumanauw » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:54 am

Perubahan nama Kelurahan menjadi nama Kecamatan apa boleh dilkukan oleh seluruh editor secara langsung ? ataukah harus melakukan perubahan melalui permintaan di tread ini ?
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby elcitia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:57 pm

Nama yang sudah ada biarkan saja begitu adanya dulu, kalau membuat jalan baru maka gunakan referensi nama kota di sekitar jalan tersebut.
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