[Feedback Required] Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

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Re: [Feedback Required] Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:59 pm

Editors,

Need your feedbacks on Road Shields.

We've found some limitations in Road Shields implementation, as follows:

  • Strings that will be converted to Road Shields can only written as prefixes to the street
  • Because of that, all roads that will have road shields will have some awkward prefix, such as Nx, AH25.
  • Search will be something like this

We Champs would like to have feedbacks from all editors and users, to see whether this will be awkward or not during navigation.

Please advise your feedback. You can try searching for "Jalur Pantura (Semarang" to see this.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:53 pm

New feature in Waze Apps have been deployed: Road Shields.

Unfortunately, as discussed in this thread, since Indonesian Road System is not incredibly clear, the addition of road shields MAY confuse people. We'll trying to figure out right now how to make it as least confusing as possible without sacrificing the road shields.

The hope is that road shields will increase awareness of Wazers that there is some kind of system in the Indonesian Road System.

If you're travelling in Pantura, you may have seen them already. They look like hexagon with a red stripe at the top, and a number at the bottom. For example, if you're travelling in Pantura, which is the National Road 1, you'll see the number 1 in the road shields. :)

Once we've cleaned up how the naming is done, we'll put a snapshot on road shields in the forum.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:49 pm

hadian_n,

Ring Road di Jogja MEMANG tidak ditambahkan namanya bukan? Makanya namanya dibuat menjadi "Jogja Ring Road" karena jalan2 tersebut memang melewati beberapa kecamatan.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:32 am

DANNYLUMANAUW wrote:Perubahan nama Kelurahan menjadi nama Kecamatan apa boleh dilkukan oleh seluruh editor secara langsung ? ataukah harus melakukan perubahan melalui permintaan di tread ini ?


We'll fix them later. Like elcitia said, leave it as is.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:05 am

After discussions, for cities, the Champs have decided on the following:

  • To avoid more headaches, DO NOT add new cities for now. Just use the surrounding areas for references. If you have to create new roads that are incredibly long (i.e.: 30 km+). Just use the No City option.
  • We'll work hard with HQ to provide the list of cities that have been recorded and official. However, we will not guarantee its availability soon. :)
  • Finally, just use your conscience when creating new cities. If you're a new editor, post a new thread for discussions if you're not sure what to name the cities.

I think this should avoid any more confusions, debate and other things that may not result in anything. :lol:
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:14 am

@elcitia,

For now, since there are no good preferences, let's just put the street name without the (). It will be confusing, yes. However, in cases where the user is looking for a street that he/she is not familiar with, putting the Kelurahan will not help either. For example, if a user from Jakarta is looking for Cendrawasih in Sleman, if you put Cendrawasih (Kel 1) and Cendrawasih (Kel 2), we're not sure whether he/she will know anyway. :)

This is a "open-a-can-of-worms" issue, and there's no good conclusion yet. So don't create more confusions/new standards first. Right now there are a lot of pains already with users putting something like "Kec. A, Kabupaten B" in the city, which is hectic.

@danny,

Don't understand what you mean. Can restate? In Indonesian is fine.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:38 am

elcitia:

Correct. Anything lower will be incredibly difficult to manage. NO need to put like "Kecamatan, Kota/Kab" in the City field. Just "Kecamatan."

Terus ini hal yang SANGAT PENTING:

JANGANmerubah nama-nama yang SUDAH ada sekarang. Lalu, untuk kota-kota besar seperti Jakarta, Bandung, Surabaya, Makassar, dan sebagainya, JANGAN diubah juga dan dipecah menjadi Kecamatan-kecamatannya. Kecamatan-kecamatan hanya diperlukan untuk daerah-daerah yang Kabupatennya SANGAT besar, untuk memudahkan dan membantu navigasi.

Basically, perubahan ini dilakukan untuk menghilangkan daerah-daerah yang ada "Kabupaten/Kab"-nya, supaya bisa lebih dapat membantu navigasi. Untuk kabupaten-kabupaten yang besar, besar sekali kemungkinan di kabupaten tersebut ada jalan-jalan yang bernama sama. Untuk itulah mengapa Kecamatan diajukan untuk menggantikan Kabupaten-kabupaten.

Jika ada pertanyaan, tolong diajukan dulu di thread ini.
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[Feedback Required] Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby kukimonsta » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:24 am

wazers,

Sorry to write this in English, in case our good friend Noam decides to chime in.

With this thread, we'd like to inform you the improvements that are currently undergoing SPECIFIC for Indonesia. The first one is below.

As written in the Wiki, right now, the smallest city that is allowed in WME is Kecamatan, not Kelurahan/Desa. Therefore, we're currently working with the HQ Geo-Ops team to clean up the city.

In addition, we're also trying to clean up all the 'junk' cities that appear in the map, such as "Yogjakarta," "Tangerangb", and all that incorrect/incomplete cities.

It will take some time to clean this mess, since there are 2,000+ cities in Indonesia. So hopefully all Kelurahan/Desa will be merged back to their Kecamatan pretty soon.

If you spot any more of these inconsistencies, just use this thread to reply, along with the Permalinks, as usual, and we'll try to clean them up as well.

In the future, we'll post any more improvements as well here.
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby heruya » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:33 pm

Bagus dan setuju sekali, ukuran terkecil dari kota adalah kecamatan...siap bantu editing berdasarkan keputusan terakhir ini...
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Re: Improvements in WME/Waze Apps

Postby hardian_n » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:06 am

tambahan juga, untuk jalan ring road yang ada di yogyakarta, kalau bisa, untuk tidak ditambahkan nama kotanya (alias no city) karena itu nanti akan sangat membingungkan bagi editor yang kurang mengenal daerah sekitar ringroad tersebut.
saya ambil contoh wilayah banguntapan (karena lokasi saya tinggal di banguntapan). Pas dilihat dari perangkat android, tempat saya yang ketika di zoom out, penamaan dari perempatan rejoinangun ke arah kecamatan banguntapan, muncul nama-nama daerah yang urutannya : yogyakarta - bantul - yogyakarta - banguntapan.
Padahal di daerah saya tersebut masuk dalam wilayah kecamatan banguntapan, kabupaten bantul.
bagaimana caranya agar ketika dibaca sama perangkat, daerah tersebut menunjukkan suatu daerah kecamatan. (banguntapan misalnya)
beberapa daerah seperti : wonokromo, potorono, jambidan, kotagede sudah bisa sesuai kalo dilihat dari perangkat mobile.
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