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Re: Missing road

Postby davidg666 » Mon May 11, 2020 11:05 am

Ianinessex wrote:Please can someone with editing right in Doolin connect a road to the end of the ferry to make it navigable. Thanks.

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Umm, didn't we discuss the mapping of ferries to the offshore islands? Almost all of these ferries aren't car ferries, so I'm not sure that it makes sense to map them. I suppose if they are mapped, then drivers going to one of the islands will be routed to the ferry, but they might get surprised when they realise they have to get out of their cars and walk onto the ferry :)

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Re: Missing road

Postby davidg666 » Tue May 12, 2020 7:16 am

Ianinessex wrote:Ooo must have missed that. Not seen anything about ferrys and stupidly assumed they would all have a car section if they went to somewhere with roads. :oops: Must try harder. :D

Heh. To be fair, I can't remember where or when we discussed ferries, so, umm, it wasn't well recorded or communicated.

The only ferries that take cars (aside from those that go to the UK or France) that I can think of are a couple that cross rivers or sea inlets. The only one I can think of that goes to an island is the one that goes to Valentia in Co. Kerry - and that island is also connected to the mainland by a bridge.

I sometimes wonder (very idly) how people living on islands like Inisheer get their cars onto the island in the first place. I guess it must be possible to get a local small ship owner to transport something heavy for you - like a car (or a load of bricks, or pieces of a house you're building, or whatever...)

I've heard that people living on these islands often own two cars: one to get around the island and another one they keep on the mainland for travelling further afield.

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Re: Missing road

Postby davidg666 » Tue May 12, 2020 11:44 am

YanisKyr wrote:Shall we add a driving restriction on it or shall we remove it altogether?

I was half considering leaving it there but disconnecting it and locking it (so nobody is inclined to connect it). That's because it'd still be visible in Live Map, although it's not visible in the app, so I'm not sure how much use that is.

Ian, presumably there are similar passenger-only ferries in parts of the UK (Scotland, perhaps?). Do they get mapped or not? I'm in two minds about this.

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Re: Missing road  Topic is solved

Postby davidg666 » Sun May 17, 2020 11:28 am

Ianinessex wrote:
davidg666 wrote:Ian, presumably there are similar passenger-only ferries in parts of the UK (Scotland, perhaps?). Do they get mapped or not? I'm in two minds about this.


My understanding was that we only map roads and associated things like bridges and ferries if they form part of the road system. Initially, this was for cars, now it has to also include those specifically for motorbikes. If a ferry does not even take a motorbike, I would suggest it should not be mapped in Waze.
If you can take a motorbike, but not a car, then I would map it with the appropriate restrictions.

Nice and straightforward. I guess the appearance of a ferry in Live Map (but not the app) isn't much value. Maybe we should remove the ferry segments completely, but put a map comment at their start and end points telling future editors not to map them in the future.

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Missing road

Postby Ianinessex » Sat May 09, 2020 7:18 pm

Please can someone with editing right in Doolin connect a road to the end of the ferry to make it navigable. Thanks.

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Re: Missing road

Postby Ianinessex » Mon May 11, 2020 3:42 pm

Ooo must have missed that. Not seen anything about ferrys and stupidly assumed they would all have a car section if they went to somewhere with roads. :oops: Must try harder. :D
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Re: Missing road

Postby Ianinessex » Sat May 16, 2020 8:24 pm

davidg666 wrote:Ian, presumably there are similar passenger-only ferries in parts of the UK (Scotland, perhaps?). Do they get mapped or not? I'm in two minds about this.


My understanding was that we only map roads and associated things like bridges and ferries if they form part of the road system. Initially, this was for cars, now it has to also include those specifically for motorbikes. If a ferry does not even take a motorbike, I would suggest it should not be mapped in Waze.
If you can take a motorbike, but not a car, then I would map it with the appropriate restrictions.
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Re: Missing road

Postby YanisKyr » Sun May 10, 2020 11:34 am

Dun dun ..done! :geek:
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Re: Missing road

Postby YanisKyr » Tue May 12, 2020 10:42 am

Thanks for chipping in David, I didn't even wonder if it was a passenger-only ferry.

Shall we add a driving restriction on it or shall we remove it altogether?
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