Today, in France, first average speed radar

If you think you've found a bug on the website which isn't specifically an App or Map Editor problem, or have a request for new or modified feature of the Community, Forums, or Waze website, use this forum.

Moderator: Unholy

Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby matuvu18 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:08 am

Hello,
today, in France, they activate the first average speed radar. Someothers will be put in place soon.
The system is one radar at one point and an other radar 2 kms after, the system calculate the average speed.
It would be great if Waze could have this feature, for instance the road could be 'painted' in orange (or what ever) to tell the driver this road is under average speed control. It's an idea, others are welcome ! The aim is to be alerted !
Best regards.
matuvu18
 
Posts: 3
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:56 pm
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time

Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:33 pm

+1

Yes, I confirm,
first average radar speed in France so It could be very usefull to integrate this kind of radar in Waze.
Android v6.0.1 - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - Opérateur : FreeMobile
AM Finistère sud-est et Morbihan Ouest - France -

ImageImage
glenan56
 
Posts: 912
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:50 pm
Location: Sud Finistère et Morbihan - France
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 27 times

Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:11 pm

How does the system tell the difference between cars passing the devices (to know who gets the ticket)? And how does the radar know it's picking up a reflection from a specific car and not the truck next to/behind it (radar guns typically use the largest return - i.e. the truck)?
Image
Waze Champ & Forum Moderator
USA Country Manager
Senior Area Manager: State of Connecticut
Wiki: Editing | Best Practices | FAQ
AndyPoms
Waze Global Champs
Waze Global Champs
 
Posts: 7133
Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:34 pm
Location: Hartford, CT
Has thanked: 128 times
Been thanked: 1304 times

Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:30 pm

I think first radar (cam I think) takes plate number and associated time
Second cam takes plate number and associated time.
The distance is known so it only stays to substract times and calculate speed.

If problem like plate not known by both radar, it is your lucky day.

By installing many cams on first point and also in second point system is able to take all lines and many cars in the same time.

So i think it is not radar but cam.

Sorry for my poor english...
Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9000 avec Tapatalk
Last edited by glenan56 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Android v6.0.1 - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - Opérateur : FreeMobile
AM Finistère sud-est et Morbihan Ouest - France -

ImageImage
glenan56
 
Posts: 912
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:50 pm
Location: Sud Finistère et Morbihan - France
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 27 times

Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:35 pm

glenan56 wrote:I think first radar takes plate number and associated time
Second radar takes plate number and associated time.
The distance is known so it only stays to substract times and calculate speed.

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9000 avec Tapatalk

So it's not really a Radar, but a license plate reader / time elapsed over known distance math problem... Interesting...
Image
Waze Champ & Forum Moderator
USA Country Manager
Senior Area Manager: State of Connecticut
Wiki: Editing | Best Practices | FAQ
AndyPoms
Waze Global Champs
Waze Global Champs
 
Posts: 7133
Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:34 pm
Location: Hartford, CT
Has thanked: 128 times
Been thanked: 1304 times

Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:40 pm

Yes. In france system is already used for automatic toll without stoping when leaving a motorway.

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9000 avec Tapatalk
Android v6.0.1 - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - Opérateur : FreeMobile
AM Finistère sud-est et Morbihan Ouest - France -

ImageImage
glenan56
 
Posts: 912
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:50 pm
Location: Sud Finistère et Morbihan - France
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 27 times

Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby robin1979 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:19 pm

Drive in front of a large truck when passing the cam gates 8-). Works beautiful in the Netherlands (we have a couple of those things).
MapSquadEurope
Area Manager - Europe
robin1979
 
Posts: 3034
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:49 am
Location: EUROPE
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 38 times

Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:40 pm

These are still just speed cameras using more technology to catch you. I'd say use the existing speed cams. They have the exact same functionality/outcome: your speed is measured and if it exceeds a threshold, you get a fine/ticket.
Wiki Resources: Map Editing Manual | alanoftheberg@gmail.com
Oregon-based US Country Manager | iPhone6 - VZ - iOS 10.1.1 | Waze v4.14
AlanOfTheBerg
Waze Global Champs
Waze Global Champs
 
Posts: 23501
Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:48 pm
Location: US Country Manager - Oregon, USA
Has thanked: 1090 times
Been thanked: 4639 times

Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby maantje76 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:06 pm

I'm experimenting with FTW policetrap Events for these in The Netherlands...
Image
maantje76
Coordinators
Coordinators
 
Posts: 4323
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:16 pm
Location: BeNeLux
Has thanked: 111 times
Been thanked: 316 times

Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:14 pm

The use of camera is confirmed.
http://www.automotoconso.com/leblog/?p=1189

Many countries already use this kind of radar (cam) :
Belgium, UK, Italy and deutchland

In France the first system installed today can be used from 150 meters to many kilometers.
This is MESTA 5000 Smart. It is not already homologate but it will be in august. Up to this date, it works only for tests.
http://www.radars-auto.com/info-radars/ ... -smart.php

The MESTA 5000 SMART can store and analyse up to 2400 vehicules for each line and per hour (so it is confirmed too that one cam is used by line on each side).

When you exceed average speed, a picture of your car is taken.

50 similar systems will be installed in France before the end of 2012.
Android v6.0.1 - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - Opérateur : FreeMobile
AM Finistère sud-est et Morbihan Ouest - France -

ImageImage
glenan56
 
Posts: 912
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:50 pm
Location: Sud Finistère et Morbihan - France
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 27 times

Next

Return to Website & Community Issues and Requests

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users