Today, in France, first average speed radar

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:40 pm

These are still just speed cameras using more technology to catch you. I'd say use the existing speed cams. They have the exact same functionality/outcome: your speed is measured and if it exceeds a threshold, you get a fine/ticket.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:57 pm

elixdreamer wrote:Please make this a update and fast.

:lol:

They are speed cameras, plain and simple.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:11 pm

How does the system tell the difference between cars passing the devices (to know who gets the ticket)? And how does the radar know it's picking up a reflection from a specific car and not the truck next to/behind it (radar guns typically use the largest return - i.e. the truck)?
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:35 pm

glenan56 wrote:I think first radar takes plate number and associated time
Second radar takes plate number and associated time.
The distance is known so it only stays to substract times and calculate speed.

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So it's not really a Radar, but a license plate reader / time elapsed over known distance math problem... Interesting...
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby davipt » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:22 pm

There has been some discussions about this in Portugal but everything gets stalled due to burocracy. Simply put the discussion has been, if these are ever enabled, about driving above the limit, as usual, then stop at a rest area to compensate the average.
Now transposing this into an app is quite complicated. The app would need to be aware of the entry point, measure the speed *without major deviations* all the time, and then be smart to know the exit point, the legal average, the current average, and start yelling like "drive at 50kmh for the next 5km to compensate the time you were at 180 you bitch".

Waze can't even warn properly if one accelerates or breaks at the wrong dozen meters before the radar.

Heck, last weeks it even warns me about radars nearby but not even near my route.

So no don't expect this any soon.

My advice? Put a radar every km on that segment from entry to exit point >:)


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Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby deeggo » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:32 pm

Timbones wrote:I'd have thought that the signs by the road would be sufficient warning for motorists...

In the Netherlands, there are no signs by the road for this. You just have to keep your average speed on a couple of km stretch under the limit.

There is an item on uservoice you can vote on, to implement this kind of trap.
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Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby dmcconachie » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:25 pm

JAAP99 wrote:Hello,
Is it planned an update Waze integrating radar section?
Because they will very quickly be deployed in France and in many other European countries such as Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands or Swiss.
http://www.lepoint.fr/auto-addict/securite/radars-de-troncon-ca-roule-19-06-2012-1475295_657.php
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/premier-radar-de-troncon-comment-ca-marche-7368520.html
We should be able to report the first and then the second radar to warn of the end of the section monitored by a specific color flashing (like yellow)!
Regards

Please read the rest of the thread before posting exactly the same question!

We have these in the UK, existing speedcam reporting works adequately, no need to rush to add anything new.

As an aside, I hate these things but my they are effective!

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Re: Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby dmcconachie » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:42 pm

JAAP99 wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:Please read the rest of the thread before posting exactly the same question!
We have these in the UK, existing speedcam reporting works adequately, no need to rush to add anything new.
As an aside, I hate these things but my they are effective!

I don’t think such, and other previous messages feel the same way …
Take a look to verify if they are effective:
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/premier-radar-de-troncon-comment-ca-marche-7368520.html

I don't need to take a look, I've seen with my own eyes as traffic slows down.

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby elixdreamer » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:52 pm

New type of camera it is it tack controller. It should have a different symbol then the other cameras.
So we der One we can identify them as track controllers.
In Belgium they are active as well
They map the time of the car passing the frist row of camera's(each lane one comera) and when you pas the second row. It calculates distence over time.

Please make this a update and fast.

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby gettingthere » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:59 pm

Why use something that is already there and works when you can distract Waze into adding yet another feature that is not needed? :o All of this when ignoring the current features that still are not 'finished' or don't work properly?
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