Today, in France, first average speed radar

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby gordonski » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:12 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
elixdreamer wrote:Please make this a update and fast.

:lol:

They are speed cameras, plain and simple.


Yes and No. They are speed cameras, alright, but they are special cameras that don't only monitor one spot one the road but whole segments. The article linked by glenan56 mentions that the two elements (i.e. the camera and the radar device) can be miles apart. I guess most drivers' reaction is to slow down to regular speed when seeing a speed trap and then re-accelerate after passing the trap. So when you only report the initial control point of these new devices, these drivers will be screwed. :oops: When you only report the endpoint of the speed control, it won't make things any better. :roll:
So I think this next generation of speed traps is something we should spend one ore two thoughts on. Though urgency is probably not too high, e.g. I haven't heard of these thingies in Germany yet, but the article says that they are in use over here as well...

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:11 am

davipt wrote:
My advice? Put a radar every km on that segment from entry to exit point >:)

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Yes but how you do that ?
Because in editor always impossible to add radar.
In France many people thought that waze staff doesn't really listen to users or editors complaints.

You can easily see here from what date this issue is discussed without any solution.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:14 pm

The use of camera is confirmed.
http://www.automotoconso.com/leblog/?p=1189

Many countries already use this kind of radar (cam) :
Belgium, UK, Italy and deutchland

In France the first system installed today can be used from 150 meters to many kilometers.
This is MESTA 5000 Smart. It is not already homologate but it will be in august. Up to this date, it works only for tests.
http://www.radars-auto.com/info-radars/ ... -smart.php

The MESTA 5000 SMART can store and analyse up to 2400 vehicules for each line and per hour (so it is confirmed too that one cam is used by line on each side).

When you exceed average speed, a picture of your car is taken.

50 similar systems will be installed in France before the end of 2012.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:40 pm

Yes. In france system is already used for automatic toll without stoping when leaving a motorway.

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:30 pm

I think first radar (cam I think) takes plate number and associated time
Second cam takes plate number and associated time.
The distance is known so it only stays to substract times and calculate speed.

If problem like plate not known by both radar, it is your lucky day.

By installing many cams on first point and also in second point system is able to take all lines and many cars in the same time.

So i think it is not radar but cam.

Sorry for my poor english...
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:33 pm

+1

Yes, I confirm,
first average radar speed in France so It could be very usefull to integrate this kind of radar in Waze.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby gettingthere » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:59 pm

Why use something that is already there and works when you can distract Waze into adding yet another feature that is not needed? :o All of this when ignoring the current features that still are not 'finished' or don't work properly?
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby elixdreamer » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:52 pm

New type of camera it is it tack controller. It should have a different symbol then the other cameras.
So we der One we can identify them as track controllers.
In Belgium they are active as well
They map the time of the car passing the frist row of camera's(each lane one comera) and when you pas the second row. It calculates distence over time.

Please make this a update and fast.

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Re: Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby dmcconachie » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:42 pm

JAAP99 wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:Please read the rest of the thread before posting exactly the same question!
We have these in the UK, existing speedcam reporting works adequately, no need to rush to add anything new.
As an aside, I hate these things but my they are effective!

I don’t think such, and other previous messages feel the same way …
Take a look to verify if they are effective:
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/premier-radar-de-troncon-comment-ca-marche-7368520.html

I don't need to take a look, I've seen with my own eyes as traffic slows down.

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Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby dmcconachie » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:25 pm

JAAP99 wrote:Hello,
Is it planned an update Waze integrating radar section?
Because they will very quickly be deployed in France and in many other European countries such as Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands or Swiss.
http://www.lepoint.fr/auto-addict/securite/radars-de-troncon-ca-roule-19-06-2012-1475295_657.php
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/premier-radar-de-troncon-comment-ca-marche-7368520.html
We should be able to report the first and then the second radar to warn of the end of the section monitored by a specific color flashing (like yellow)!
Regards

Please read the rest of the thread before posting exactly the same question!

We have these in the UK, existing speedcam reporting works adequately, no need to rush to add anything new.

As an aside, I hate these things but my they are effective!

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