Today, in France, first average speed radar

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby gettingthere » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:59 pm

Why use something that is already there and works when you can distract Waze into adding yet another feature that is not needed? :o All of this when ignoring the current features that still are not 'finished' or don't work properly?
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:57 pm

elixdreamer wrote:Please make this a update and fast.

:lol:

They are speed cameras, plain and simple.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby elixdreamer » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:52 pm

New type of camera it is it tack controller. It should have a different symbol then the other cameras.
So we der One we can identify them as track controllers.
In Belgium they are active as well
They map the time of the car passing the frist row of camera's(each lane one comera) and when you pas the second row. It calculates distence over time.

Please make this a update and fast.

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:14 pm

The use of camera is confirmed.
http://www.automotoconso.com/leblog/?p=1189

Many countries already use this kind of radar (cam) :
Belgium, UK, Italy and deutchland

In France the first system installed today can be used from 150 meters to many kilometers.
This is MESTA 5000 Smart. It is not already homologate but it will be in august. Up to this date, it works only for tests.
http://www.radars-auto.com/info-radars/ ... -smart.php

The MESTA 5000 SMART can store and analyse up to 2400 vehicules for each line and per hour (so it is confirmed too that one cam is used by line on each side).

When you exceed average speed, a picture of your car is taken.

50 similar systems will be installed in France before the end of 2012.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:40 pm

These are still just speed cameras using more technology to catch you. I'd say use the existing speed cams. They have the exact same functionality/outcome: your speed is measured and if it exceeds a threshold, you get a fine/ticket.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby robin1979 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:19 pm

Drive in front of a large truck when passing the cam gates 8-). Works beautiful in the Netherlands (we have a couple of those things).
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:40 pm

Yes. In france system is already used for automatic toll without stoping when leaving a motorway.

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:35 pm

glenan56 wrote:I think first radar takes plate number and associated time
Second radar takes plate number and associated time.
The distance is known so it only stays to substract times and calculate speed.

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So it's not really a Radar, but a license plate reader / time elapsed over known distance math problem... Interesting...
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby glenan56 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:30 pm

I think first radar (cam I think) takes plate number and associated time
Second cam takes plate number and associated time.
The distance is known so it only stays to substract times and calculate speed.

If problem like plate not known by both radar, it is your lucky day.

By installing many cams on first point and also in second point system is able to take all lines and many cars in the same time.

So i think it is not radar but cam.

Sorry for my poor english...
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:11 pm

How does the system tell the difference between cars passing the devices (to know who gets the ticket)? And how does the radar know it's picking up a reflection from a specific car and not the truck next to/behind it (radar guns typically use the largest return - i.e. the truck)?
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