Today, in France, first average speed radar

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby elixdreamer » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:52 pm

New type of camera it is it tack controller. It should have a different symbol then the other cameras.
So we der One we can identify them as track controllers.
In Belgium they are active as well
They map the time of the car passing the frist row of camera's(each lane one comera) and when you pas the second row. It calculates distence over time.

Please make this a update and fast.

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:57 pm

elixdreamer wrote:Please make this a update and fast.

:lol:

They are speed cameras, plain and simple.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby gettingthere » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:59 pm

Why use something that is already there and works when you can distract Waze into adding yet another feature that is not needed? :o All of this when ignoring the current features that still are not 'finished' or don't work properly?
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby gordonski » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:12 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
elixdreamer wrote:Please make this a update and fast.

:lol:

They are speed cameras, plain and simple.


Yes and No. They are speed cameras, alright, but they are special cameras that don't only monitor one spot one the road but whole segments. The article linked by glenan56 mentions that the two elements (i.e. the camera and the radar device) can be miles apart. I guess most drivers' reaction is to slow down to regular speed when seeing a speed trap and then re-accelerate after passing the trap. So when you only report the initial control point of these new devices, these drivers will be screwed. :oops: When you only report the endpoint of the speed control, it won't make things any better. :roll:
So I think this next generation of speed traps is something we should spend one ore two thoughts on. Though urgency is probably not too high, e.g. I haven't heard of these thingies in Germany yet, but the article says that they are in use over here as well...

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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby Timbones » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:13 pm

I'd have thought that the signs by the road would be sufficient warning for motorists...
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Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby timbucks » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:21 pm

Timbones wrote:I'd have thought that the signs by the road would be sufficient warning for motorists...


No. You forget that sat nav systems absolve the user of all responsibility for their actions. If the sat nav says turn right and the signage says otherwise then it's obvious the real world signage is at fault. [sarcasm]

So you can guess I agree with you

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Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby deeggo » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:32 pm

Timbones wrote:I'd have thought that the signs by the road would be sufficient warning for motorists...

In the Netherlands, there are no signs by the road for this. You just have to keep your average speed on a couple of km stretch under the limit.

There is an item on uservoice you can vote on, to implement this kind of trap.
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Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby JAAP99 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:46 pm

Hello,
Is it planned an update Waze integrating radar section?
Because they will very quickly be deployed in France and in many other European countries such as Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands or Swiss.
http://www.lepoint.fr/auto-addict/securite/radars-de-troncon-ca-roule-19-06-2012-1475295_657.php
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/premier-radar-de-troncon-comment-ca-marche-7368520.html
We should be able to report the first and then the second radar to warn of the end of the section monitored by a specific color flashing (like yellow)!
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Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby dmcconachie » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:25 pm

JAAP99 wrote:Hello,
Is it planned an update Waze integrating radar section?
Because they will very quickly be deployed in France and in many other European countries such as Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands or Swiss.
http://www.lepoint.fr/auto-addict/securite/radars-de-troncon-ca-roule-19-06-2012-1475295_657.php
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/premier-radar-de-troncon-comment-ca-marche-7368520.html
We should be able to report the first and then the second radar to warn of the end of the section monitored by a specific color flashing (like yellow)!
Regards

Please read the rest of the thread before posting exactly the same question!

We have these in the UK, existing speedcam reporting works adequately, no need to rush to add anything new.

As an aside, I hate these things but my they are effective!

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Re: Re: Today, in France, first average speed radar

Postby JAAP99 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:18 pm

dmcconachie wrote:Please read the rest of the thread before posting exactly the same question!
We have these in the UK, existing speedcam reporting works adequately, no need to rush to add anything new.
As an aside, I hate these things but my they are effective!

I don’t think such, and other previous messages feel the same way …
Take a look to verify if they are effective:
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/premier-radar-de-troncon-comment-ca-marche-7368520.html
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