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Re: Re: Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby dmcconachie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:52 pm

mikeholczer wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:
mikeholczer wrote:The coloring needs indicate speed relative to the speed limit.

But we don't have speed limits

Then let's get speed limits. People can report speed limits just like they report hazards and cops.

Whole other conversation that is way more complicated than anyone hankering for it ever appreciates! It's under consideration but most veteran users, myself included, are against it!
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Re: Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby mikeholczer » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:38 pm

dmcconachie wrote:
mikeholczer wrote:The coloring needs indicate speed relative to the speed limit.

But we don't have speed limits

Then let's get speed limits. People can report speed limits just like they report hazards and cops.
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Re: Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby dmcconachie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:33 pm

mikeholczer wrote:The coloring needs indicate speed relative to the speed limit.

But we don't have speed limits
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby CBenson » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:46 pm

I agree that if the traffic marking are based on average speeds, then it would make sense to mark roads that are going faster than normal.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby wickedlou9 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:03 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
mikeholczer wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:Use navigation and stop making the decision yourself! This isn't Google Maps.

Being able to see which segments Waze knows about the traffic conditions on and which it doesn't let's the user decide if the navigation should be trusted.

Just because a road is red and traveling 14mph doesn't mean it isn't the best routing option. So, just because a nav system sends you there doesn't mean it shouldn't be trusted.

Waze will fairly regularly advise me to take a road which is not the best road. It's not perfect. The drawback of the current system is that it can't tell you when a road is better than normal. Green is green.

I find that looking at user pins reporting traffic is much more reliable than going by the colors. If I see alot of pins, I know traffic is bad. I should take screen shots on my phone. there will be times the whole route is green but there are heavy traffic pins all over the place. The only thing I can count on is that if the route IS actually yellow or red, I know it's really bad. If it's clear ( green) I don't actually know anything unless I look at pins.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby mikeholczer » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:11 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
mikeholczer wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:Use navigation and stop making the decision yourself! This isn't Google Maps.

Being able to see which segments Waze knows about the traffic conditions on and which it doesn't let's the user decide if the navigation should be trusted.

Just because a road is red and traveling 14mph doesn't mean it isn't the best routing option. So, just because a nav system sends you there doesn't mean it shouldn't be trusted.

That's true, but if Waze doesn't have information about every road I can't know that it is. I just want to be able to know what Wase doesn't know.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:05 am

mikeholczer wrote:
dmcconachie wrote:Use navigation and stop making the decision yourself! This isn't Google Maps.

Being able to see which segments Waze knows about the traffic conditions on and which it doesn't let's the user decide if the navigation should be trusted.

Just because a road is red and traveling 14mph doesn't mean it isn't the best routing option. So, just because a nav system sends you there doesn't mean it shouldn't be trusted.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby mikeholczer » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:31 am

dmcconachie wrote:Use navigation and stop making the decision yourself! This isn't Google Maps.

Being able to see which segments Waze knows about the traffic conditions on and which it doesn't let's the user decide if the navigation should be trusted.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:29 pm

wickedlou9 wrote:I assume it was because Waze knows there is normally traffic on that road so it didn't alert me?

Yes. Traffic patterns are captured in what we've been told are 10-minute intervals for all days of the week.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby wickedlou9 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:12 pm

that gave me an idea. If the toll road is faster but will cost you an additional 2 dollars, what is the time value of your money and should you take that faster route? Lets say you assume your time is worth 50 dollars an hour, that is roughly 83 cents per minute. So it would only make sense to take the faster route if it was more than 3 minutes faster.
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