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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby mikeholczer » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:24 pm

dmcconachie wrote:But if it was normal speeds at a time you expect it to be busy then you'd get green for a traffic jam!
Always use navigation and then you don't need to worry what colour the segments are!

Why would it be green when there is a traffic jam? If Waze had live data of it being a traffic jam, it would be red, if Waze had historical data of it being normal speed it would be a green dashes, if Waze had no information it would be grey. If the driver sees green dashes he knows it's historical, so if he has other reason to believe there will be traffic (such as an event was just letting out) he would trust his instinct.

I don't understand how you can think more information, when properly expressed (live vs. historical) could be a bad thing. Knowledge is power.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby mikeholczer » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:50 am

I disagree; the benefit of color coding traffic going at normal speed is so that one can tell the difference between "traffic going at normal speed" and "Waze doesn't have traffic information about this segment".

The other big issue I have with the way traffic and route information is displayed is that the route line often make it hard to see the traffic color for the route. If the route was just outlined, and allowed the color coded traffic information to say on the route, it would be easy to see how far out traffic goes and when it is likely to let up. Being stuck in traffic is easier to deal with when you can easily see how far it goes.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby mikeholczer » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:56 pm

It sounds like Waze maintains a database of historic traffic data. It would be great if that was shown on the map. I had an old GPS device by Dash Express (the got bought by RIM) that showed traffic on the map at all times (it could be disabled in preferences). It drew all streets indicating current speed in each direction (compared to speed limit) using color codes (green, yellow, orange, red). When the data was live it was a solid line and when it was based on the historic model it was a dashed line. When they didn't have data either live or historic (which was rare) the street was grey. The current route was drawn by outlining the street in white or black (depending on day or night), but the route indication didn't obscure the color coded speed information. This was great because when it rerouted based on traffic the driver was could easily see if it was using live or historic data and know how much to trust that it would actually be better.

I could being able to access the historic traffic data as being beneficial to your paying customers too. News shows could automatically be alerted to traffic is that "not normal". Their audience is more interested in traffic or lack there off that is uncommon. Advertisers could also benefit from being able to target coupons when traffic is abnormally low by them, as people may be ahead of their schedule and be more influenced by coupon.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby dmcconachie » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:09 pm

Use navigation and stop making the decision yourself! This isn't Google Maps.
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby dmcconachie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:02 pm

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Re: Re: Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby dmcconachie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:52 pm

mikeholczer wrote:
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mikeholczer wrote:The coloring needs indicate speed relative to the speed limit.

But we don't have speed limits

Then let's get speed limits. People can report speed limits just like they report hazards and cops.

Whole other conversation that is way more complicated than anyone hankering for it ever appreciates! It's under consideration but most veteran users, myself included, are against it!
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Re: Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby dmcconachie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:33 pm

mikeholczer wrote:The coloring needs indicate speed relative to the speed limit.

But we don't have speed limits
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby dmcconachie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:29 pm

Depends what you class as normal. Normal at peak times might be 10mph. I don't want the extra colour because it's superfluous if you're using the app properly and I'd rather it didn't become flooded with a myriad of extra colours!
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby dmcconachie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:19 pm

But if it was normal speeds at a time you expect it to be busy then you'd get green for a traffic jam!
Always use navigation and then you don't need to worry what colour the segments are!
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Re: Mark Traffic Patterns

Postby cybertesla » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:10 pm

I'll have to back up his point here. At least once I've been in a hurry and was surprised to see that Waze didn't have certain sections of road marked as slow. At that time of day I would have expected them both backed-up and driven through by Waze users. However, since there was no color marking I assumed it was clear. When I got there I found it backed up and ended up taking longer to get to destination than I would have on an alternate route. Green to indicate normal speed would be great. But perhaps it should be limited to Minor Highways or larger roads.
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