[PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

Moderators: MapSir, USA Champs

[PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

Postby PesachZ » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:22 am

To continue the origin thread for this page in the global wiki update forum which was posted to a year ago. And as mentioned in the Global [PAGE UPDATE PROPOSAL] House Numbers thread The No update triggered section of this page needs to be revamped for updates to reflect changes in behavior and our understanding of it.
Current wiki text wrote:No update triggered

The following edits will not trigger a map update. Therefore to get any of these changes to be seen in the live map, one of the previously mentioned edits must take place in that map tile.

  • Camera updates
  • Adding or editing House Numbers in WME
  • Adding or editing a Place.


Issues: Some of this is not accurate,
  • House numbers search index is updated via a separate process from tile builds which just happens to be scheduled at the same time. Triggering a tile update is not necessary for the HN index to be update.
  • place updates go live immediately in the venue server, place name index (for searching by name) is updated on a schedule, only place polygons and names displayed on the map are updated with the tile build.

Proposal replace the section with this:
Non trigger edits
The following edits will not trigger an update of the tiles they are included in. Some of them may not be seen in the client until the tiles are updated automatically on the regular cycle.
  • Camera updates will not be seen until the tile is updated.
    • To expedite the process perform a trigger update on the same tile.
  • Adding or editing House Numbers in WME are not dependant on tile updates.
    • They will be included in the next house number index update. Performing a trigger updated is not needed. See the House numbers page for more details.
  • Adding or editing a place partially reliant on a tile update.
    • Place details and navigation updates go live immediately
    • The place name index (used when searching for the place by name) is updated separately on a schedule, an unaffected by the tile build.
    • The polygon and name displayed on the client map for area places is only updated with a tile build, to expedite an update of an area place polygon on the client map, perform a trigger update.


Part of the reason for making this change is to spread the knowledge that trigger updates are not needed when updating House Numbers.

Please comment, support, and/or critique below. I'd like to see the page updated in the near future. I think we can follow the trend of smaller faster updates instead of delaying updates for years in pursuit of the ever elusive perfection.
PesachZ
Wiki Master
Wiki Master
 
Posts: 4511
Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 am
Location: NY, USA (also NJ sometimes) {GC}
Has thanked: 1998 times
Been thanked: 2359 times

Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

Postby bz2012 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:25 pm

PesachZ wrote:....
Proposal replace the section with this:
Non trigger edits
The following edits will not trigger an update of the tiles they are included in. Some of them may not be seen in the client until the tiles are updated automatically on the regular cycle.
  • Camera updates will not be seen until the tile is updated.
    • To expedite the process perform a trigger update on the same tile.
  • Adding or editing House Numbers in WME are not dependant on tile updates.
    • They will be included in the next house number index update. Performing a trigger updated is not needed. See the House numbers page for more details.
  • Adding or editing a place partially reliant on a tile update.
    • Place details and navigation updates go live immediately
    • The place name index (used when searching for the place by name) is updated separately on a schedule, an unaffected by the tile build.

I think the last phrase should read 'and is unaffected by the tile build.'
  • The polygon and name displayed on the client map for area places is only updated with a tile build, to expedite an update of an area place polygon on the client map, perform a trigger update.


  • That sentence should probably be "The polygon and name displayed on the client map for area places is only updated with a tile build. To expedite an update of an area place polygon on the client map, perform a trigger update."

    Part of the reason for making this change is to spread the knowledge that trigger updates are not needed when updating House Numbers.

    Please comment, support, and/or critique below. I'd like to see the page updated in the near future. I think we can follow the trend of smaller faster updates instead of delaying updates for years in pursuit of the ever elusive perfection.


    Sorry to nit pick an excellent job. Thank YOU for all the WAZE you help!
    State Manager, Louisiana
    bz2012
    Map Raider
    Map Raider
     
    Posts: 1595
    Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:32 pm
    Location: Baton Rouge, La
    Has thanked: 1908 times
    Been thanked: 310 times

    Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

    Postby PesachZ » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:35 pm

    bz2012 wrote:
    PesachZ wrote:....
    Proposal replace the section with this:
    Non trigger edits
    The following edits will not trigger an update of the tiles they are included in. Some of them may not be seen in the client until the tiles are updated automatically on the regular cycle.
    • Camera updates will not be seen until the tile is updated.
      • To expedite the process perform a trigger update on the same tile.
    • Adding or editing House Numbers in WME are not dependant on tile updates.
      • They will be included in the next house number index update. Performing a trigger updated is not needed. See the House numbers page for more details.
    • Adding or editing a place partially reliant on a tile update.
      • Place details and navigation updates go live immediately
      • The place name index (used when searching for the place by name) is updated separately on a schedule, an unaffected by the tile build.

    I think the last phrase should read 'and is unaffected by the tile build.'
  • The polygon and name displayed on the client map for area places is only updated with a tile build, to expedite an update of an area place polygon on the client map, perform a trigger update.


  • That sentence should probably be "The polygon and name displayed on the client map for area places is only updated with a tile build. To expedite an update of an area place polygon on the client map, perform a trigger update."

    Part of the reason for making this change is to spread the knowledge that trigger updates are not needed when updating House Numbers.

    Please comment, support, and/or critique below. I'd like to see the page updated in the near future. I think we can follow the trend of smaller faster updates instead of delaying updates for years in pursuit of the ever elusive perfection.


    Sorry to nit pick an excellent job. Thank YOU for all the WAZE you help!

    Thank you I will use that when I type up the wiki text draft
    PesachZ
    Wiki Master
    Wiki Master
     
    Posts: 4511
    Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 am
    Location: NY, USA (also NJ sometimes) {GC}
    Has thanked: 1998 times
    Been thanked: 2359 times

    Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

    Postby PesachZ » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:09 pm

    Since there were no other comments or objections, I will update the page with this information.
    PesachZ
    Wiki Master
    Wiki Master
     
    Posts: 4511
    Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 am
    Location: NY, USA (also NJ sometimes) {GC}
    Has thanked: 1998 times
    Been thanked: 2359 times

    Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

    Postby PesachZ » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:45 pm

    the page has been updated, and I created the talk page as well with links back here, and to the original global thread.
    PesachZ
    Wiki Master
    Wiki Master
     
    Posts: 4511
    Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 am
    Location: NY, USA (also NJ sometimes) {GC}
    Has thanked: 1998 times
    Been thanked: 2359 times

    Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

    Postby orbitc » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:44 pm

    I would like to suggest adding closures as edits that are none tile triggering updates under the last section.
    Regional Coordinator for Northeast & New England
    • ßeta Tester
    • iOS ßeta: Latest version
    • WME ßeta

    [ img ][ img ][ img ][ img ]
    WME | USA | MapRaid!
    orbitc
    Master Raider
    Master Raider
     
    Posts: 6493
    Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:51 pm
    Location: USA
    Has thanked: 2584 times
    Been thanked: 6566 times

    Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

    Postby xanderb » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:01 pm

    I would like to suggest we make the section titles match a little better. Currently it is Trigger updates and Non trigger edits. I think it should be either:
    Trigger updates and Non trigger updates
    or
    Trigger edits and Non trigger edits
    xanderb
    Global Champ Mentor
    Global Champ Mentor
     
    Posts: 910
    Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:12 pm
    Location: Louisville, KY
    Has thanked: 764 times
    Been thanked: 603 times

    Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

    Postby PesachZ » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:12 pm

    xanderb wrote:I would like to suggest we make the section titles match a little better. Currently it is Trigger updates and Non trigger edits. I think it should be either:
    Trigger updates and Non trigger updates
    or
    Trigger edits and Non trigger edits

    Since this proposal was only about the non-trigger I updated that title. But I would support updating the other to match so both say edits, consistent with common vernacular.
    PesachZ
    Wiki Master
    Wiki Master
     
    Posts: 4511
    Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 am
    Location: NY, USA (also NJ sometimes) {GC}
    Has thanked: 1998 times
    Been thanked: 2359 times

    Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

    Postby jm6087 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:02 pm

    I think both having "edits" would be less confusing IMO
    jm6087
    US Waze Champs
    US Waze Champs
     
    Posts: 3446
    Joined: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:05 pm
    Location: Texas
    Has thanked: 581 times
    Been thanked: 1396 times

    Re: [PAGE UPDATE] Map tiles

    Postby PesachZ » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:18 am

    orbitc wrote:I would like to suggest adding closures as edits that are none tile triggering updates under the last section.

    PesachZ
    Wiki Master
    Wiki Master
     
    Posts: 4511
    Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:51 am
    Location: NY, USA (also NJ sometimes) {GC}
    Has thanked: 1998 times
    Been thanked: 2359 times


    Return to US Wiki Discussion

    Who is online

    Users browsing this forum: RichardPyne