Great job Nick, nice update to an important topic i think an update that should go live quickly

Two Quick question on interpolation (neither of these questions should hold up the posting of this update):
Do we know if waze interpolates both sides of the street (odd/even)?
Is interpolation only on a per segment basis between house numbers?

itzwolf wrote:The only thing to note and it may very well be personal opinion, is the lack of title casing when stating House Numbers and Residential Place Points. I’m definitely no English major but they are identified as “RPP” and “HN” so to me “residential point Places”, “residential Point Places”, and simply “house numbers” doesn’t quite look correct. Otherwise if keeping sentence case, there are still a few places to make the changes for page uniformity.

We don't have a lot of uniformity with capitalization in the wiki. Although we seem to agree that sentence case is preferred over title case, disagreement stems from what is a proper noun and what isn't. This was discussed somewhat in this thread but that discussion seems to have stalled. Anyhow, I think we should not capitalize any Waze objects (like place, update request, house number, etc.) and just use unambiguous language, because I don't think they're proper nouns. As for abbreviations, capital letters are used all the time when abbreviating common nouns.

Regardless of capitalization, we really need an update to this page, and this draft looks good! Lots of useful and important information.

What is the acceptable format for alphabetical HNs? Is it 1234A, 1234-A, 1234#A, 1234 A (with a space)? Since this is now a USA page, it's best to clarify it.

steveinark wrote:Agree with adding the small amount of text, to enhance the clarity. It is a key point to get across to newer editors.

I agree with this as well.


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tenetienne wrote:The one thing I didn't see after reading through the thread was how many HNs should be placed on a new road. The first thing I think of is 2, so that Waze will be able to calculate new numbers. Nothing like having to state the obvious, but I wouldn't be surprised that the question would probably come up.

Good question. The safe answer is to add all the HNs that are known. A new development may have gaps in the data, but existing communities should have enough info to fill in most streets.

I'll update the interpolation section to include a qualifier that as many of known HNs should be added, but interpolation can fill in the gaps.

I think it should be known, but for those that may not know, we need to state house numbers should not be “guessed”. If you can’t get house numbers from a government agency, WSV, or BOTG, then we should only rely on interpolation. Because if we “guess” at the first and last HN on a new segment, we could inadvertently break routing to that segment by being wrong.


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This article looks great!

Two comments:
(1) In the search hierarchy, you have "Waze RPP or house number" at the top of the list. I suggest Waze RPP be top, then follow with Waze house number

(2) There is a growing practice to link a Google address to a place so that Wazers who search by address are led to that place without the need to add a Waze RPP. I'm not sure where this falls in the hierarchy --- I've only seen it used in lieu of a Waze RPP.

subs5 wrote:I know but since there was a question in MAR about it, thought it might be worth restating in the place that I noted above. If others disagree that is fine, but trying to make it easy for people since this section does say RPPs and HNs at same priority and then goes into interpolation w/o stating not applicable for RPPs.

So do others think it should be added?

I'm fine with restating it in that paragraph if it might help provide more clarity for someone.

itzwolf wrote:Nick,

I think the page updates are good. The only thing I think needs done now is to update the images to match the new interface changes since it is now in production and here to stay. Many people have been confused with the new interface now there is no longer a sub editing window and the buttons/icons have changed dramatically. The exit button location is one that seems to get people thinking they are stuck in the editor since its to the right of the save button and very easily missed. Having the new toolbar and images on the page detailing the locations would help with this.

I'm going to second having the imagery updated. I've been holding off on sending new editors to this page because of it.

nzahn1 wrote:I've incorporated subs5's suggestions, and have done some page-wide changes to capitalization of non-proper nouns.

Changes: User:Nzahn1/House_Numbers_in_WME

Nick,

I read through the proposed changes and the information looks good to me. The only thing to note and it may very well be personal opinion, is the lack of title casing when stating House Numbers and Residential Place Points. I’m definitely no English major but they are identified as “RPP” and “HN” so to me “residential point Places”, “residential Point Places”, and simply “house numbers” doesn’t quite look correct. Otherwise if keeping sentence case, there are still a few places to make the changes for page uniformity.

Kartografer wrote:

itzwolf wrote:The only thing to note and it may very well be personal opinion, is the lack of title casing when stating House Numbers and Residential Place Points. I’m definitely no English major but they are identified as “RPP” and “HN” so to me “residential point Places”, “residential Point Places”, and simply “house numbers” doesn’t quite look correct. Otherwise if keeping sentence case, there are still a few places to make the changes for page uniformity.

We don't have a lot of uniformity with capitalization in the wiki. Although we seem to agree that sentence case is preferred over title case, disagreement stems from what is a proper noun and what isn't. This was discussed somewhat in this thread but that discussion seems to have stalled. Anyhow, I think we should not capitalize any Waze objects (like place, update request, house number, etc.) and just use unambiguous language, because I don't think they're proper nouns. As for abbreviations, capital letters are used all the time when abbreviating common nouns.

Regardless of capitalization, we really need an update to this page, and this draft looks good! Lots of useful and important information.

Quickly read through that thread, thanks for linking it. I am good with sentence case and the initiative to come to a standardization for wiki writing. Seeing the differences from what I am used to reading triggered me to take notice. That said, I also agree this update is very much needed and the information contained needs published for the masses. Thanks to Nick and subs5 for their work here.