leoviotti wrote:An absolute must-read, I didn't know it existed, the wiki sometimes don't point un anywhere... google located it easier.
leoviotti wrote:I remember that, back in the end of 2010... I was trying to drive around Pridibanomyong, but most roads were non-existent or totally wrong. I started fixing there (I was living there back then). Unfortunately I stopped for a long time, the old editor was @$#ˆ$% slow to use (and even the new one, totally HORRIBLE to use from Thailand, until they turned the old one off a couple of months ago - now it's ok). I barely use the routing function though, but it would be nice to have that working... I have Sygic, the paid one, but sometimes it misses the roads by A LOT, or makes me go out from the tollway just to go back minutes later... anyway, long way to go, but much better now than it was before.
leoviotti wrote:Right, first time I spoke to you was probably because something locked that I wanted to edit.
leoviotti wrote:My only "problem" with the alternate names, is that they don't really show while driving, only maybe in a search. I like the system here, of odd-even numbered sois, makes it much easier to drive in the maze when you get how things work, but it's always good to have the soi name in display, when you ask for directions.
For ex, some people only know "Soi Anamai", if you ask for On Nut 39 while on Srinagarindra, or Srinagarindra 24 while in OnNut, they will look lost. Say "Soi Anamai" and they know instantly where is it.
leoviotti wrote:Speaking frankly, they do exist, I've seen it a few times in Mittraphap Rd, in the mountain area in Nakhon Ratchasima, in the middle of the road and *always ALWAYS* with a person beside it. Other than that, I only know the surveillance cameras. And considering how I drive, when traffic allows, I would know if there were speed cams everywhere...
leoviotti wrote:Will do, I'll be around in xmas week anyway... but I'm easier to find by Skype or Google Talk (same name as here, everywhere).
leoviotti wrote:OH, I just saw this message... happy late birthday anyway!
The Wiki page Junction Style Guide is a great help and probably the best way to work with intersections. There are a few sites in the wiki where end-nodes are mentioned. They are important for routing. If they are not been added the routing starts from the next connected road.
It takes time. When i started editing in bangkok more than two years ago it was a mess of unconnected roads and a few poor freeways. But navigation is much better now in the city. As i came to Thailand last year, i was able to find a perfect route from Suvarnabhumi to Sukhumvit 20/1. And we don't stop
The locking has a few good side effects. People start to contact us, i've had a few mails in the past from editors in BKK. The other thing - as long as this d... automatic changes thing is existing in waze - you can protect roads that are close to each other from changing the direction. I've found a few roads messed up by the system a few weeks ago, and i know definitely that i have set the proper direction.
It is not necessary to lock anything of course especially unnamed stuff, but at least complicated intersections.
Soi names are a little bit tricky here. Eyerybody knows Tong Lor Rd. But on the plaques Sukhumvit 55 is the first thing we see. Sometimes im not quiet sure what to use or should been corrected. Mostly i use the numnered main part of the plaque cause also all visitors use these names to describe anything.
The other "nickname" would find a good place in the alt names field.
Another question is: What you know about real Speed-Cams in BKK? Two months ago i have found more than 2500 reported speedcams in the editor, which were never been approved, some were approved in Areas where definitely no speedcams are installed. I've heard about Stories from my friend which lives for more than 10 years here, that people really get bills. But i've never seen one during my rides. I've read in the newspapapers that they are about to install some, but not 2500 i guess
So this brings me to two opinions, most people don't know the difference between traffic cams and speedcams or they are really good hided
Well just let me know when you find a few hours. It would be great to have a laptop or anything else, so i can show you a few tricks. If you know some other editors who are willing to join us, just activate them
Just call me -> "๐๘๓-๑๓๙-๘๗๐๘"
So today is my birthday and we gonna rock that crap out of bkk tonight
Hello leoviotti good to see somebody is taking care here
The community isn't that small, but most wazers posting on the FB group instead of the forum.
I've noticed your great effort in the area of BKK. Many times there are no sources for naming roads. So to add roads even without a roadname makes sense cause there is no basemap here and another one may know the name and can edit the road again. But don't forget the end-nodes. I've added thousends to your network
I agree to your opinion about the service roads, there are so much here. I've added a lot of freeways to the map and somedays i have to go back and add the service roads as well, cause my first thought was to establish a long range routing first.
There is no problem to lock Sukhumvit, cause automatic changes frome the system still happens. Changes to oneway or other horrible things for instance. This road is a problem cause of the Skytrain and the GPS, but we have to live with that.
Ramkamhaeng elevated road woud be better a normal street type than a ramp, i used to set a few elevated roads in bkk to "street", but some other users set them to ramps or primarys. But i won't lock them to my level cause then they are not accessible anymore to others or you. Especially primary streets clutters the map. So it's better to use a slim roadtype for the client.
Its also better if you lock sensible spots to your AM level, as CM i can override any locks in Thailand and i'm willing to help if there are problems.
So anybody feel free to contact me for unlocks or anything else even in Thai.
What about a meeting in Bangkok, i'm in the Area until the middle of january? So we could discuss a few things.
echooo wrote:IMHO, province is the closest match to city. There are 76 provinces in Thailand (excluding Bangkok). But there are over 800 Amphoes here which are too many to remember. I will always use province as a city because waze has only one field for such a thing and 76 is just right, in my opinion. Also, If you use Amphoe, you may not realize where it is because there are Amphoe Muang in all provinces (except Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya).
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