AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby Caradellino » Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:25 am

omba_de wrote:hochfügen

Eric, Achtung!

Das Schigebiet liegt nicht in der Gemeinde Hochfügen, die gibt es nicht. Das heißt dort (wie die Straßen) Fügenberg und ist so in die City-Felder einzutragen. Hab ich dort schon mal gemacht, hier hast Du die Referenzkarte, wo man die Gemeindegrenzen gut sehen kann: http://osm.clapps.net/?ll=47.267276,11.777129&z=16
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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby Caradellino » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:21 pm

omba_de wrote:Wie verhält es sich mit Skigebieten? Ich auch im Client immer direkt danach u d vermute dass es andere auch so machen. Nur wenn sie nicht eingetragen werden... Findest man sie auch nicht. Soll man die Talstation der Haupt-Bahn markieren als landmark- leisure-sport facilities?
Was denkt ihr?

Ja, würde ich machen. Hier kommt uns die Waze-Regel mit den Straßen- und Gemeindenamen in die Quere, siehe auch:
omba_de wrote:Was irgendwie lustig ist. Ich kenne keinen der fügenberg sagt. Das ist für alle Hochfügen. Word aber dennoch geändert von mir!


Klar ist allen egal wie dort die Gemeinde heißt, alle sehen nur die Ortschaft Hochfügen (PLZ 6264, ich denke, dort oben gibt es sogar ein entsprechendes Ortsschild), aber es ist nun mal kein Feld für die Ortschaft vorhanden, daher können wir das nicht eintragen.

Genau deswegen wären hier die Landmarks extrem hilfreich, da könnte man entsprechende Infos zumindest für die Anzeige am Client dazu einpflegen.

Allerdings sehe ich gerade, dass wenn man auf osm den Google-Layer einschaltet, die Straßen dort Hochfügen benannt sind. Das kommt mir auch wahrscheinlicher vor, dass die Straßen der Ortschaft eher den Ortschaftsnamen tragen und nicht den Gemeindennamen.

Bei solchen widersprüchlichen Informationen suche ich mir dann nach Möglichkeit ein Hotel und schaue auf deren Homepage die Postadresse an. Hier gibt es z.B. das Berghotel Hochfügen mit der Adresse Hochfügen 27 oder noch besser die Angabe auf der HP vom Hotel Lamark: Hochfügen 34, A-6264 Fügenberg. Damit glaube ich mehr der Info von GoogleMap und würde dort die Straßennamen nochmal ändern - dann sieht man auch Hochfügen wieder am Client.

...auch die zugehörigen Parkplätze eignen sich hervorragend, den Namen eines Schigebietes oder die Namen der Liftanlagen in den Client zu bringen.

Abschließend noch ein bissi Oberlehrer :ugeek: :
...dieser "junction point on the end of the road", über den ihr gesprochen habt nennt man auf waze-isch Endnode, eine Straße ohne Endnode ist eine unterminated road und bringt die Routenberechnung tatsächlich gehörig durcheinander. Das nur der Vollständigkeit halber, wenn ihr mal beim Forenlesen drüber stolpert...
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AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby gamersea » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:32 pm

Guten tag,

I hope you guys can speak English? I would really like to get AM rights for the fugen/kaltenbach area. I've already sent in a request but have not heard anything yet, i've not been there yet with Waze but do have been there for many times. In 3 weeks I'm gonna be there again. I would like to update the map a bit, as I can see there are roads not yet there and more stuff which can be updated.

So could the austria AM chief manager please give me access to the fugen and kaltenbach area!

Thanks!

Mit freundliche grub,

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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby gamersea » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:44 pm

Not a very pleasing PM.

So I hope atleast someone else is gonna take that area in their hands and make it better! Good luck :)
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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby gamersea » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:47 pm

Nothing, I will do that! Just wished I've could edit in advance, nothing more ;)

Thanks,
This thread can be closed:)
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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby gamersea » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:21 pm

Hi,

I will definitely help you with that;-)
It are not major things, but mostly the smaller roads to vacation homes (for example the pankrazberg, it continues longer than Waze shows), but no navigation system has them good in their system. So it would be great and plus points for Waze if we do have them as navigation.

Not sure how it's done in Austria but in The Netherlands we close dead ends with a junction, so for example the L49 Pankrazberg Landesstraße does not end with a junction:)

So most of all just adding the smaller roads so people can find their homes while navigating;)

Kind Regards,
Wilco
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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby gamersea » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:25 pm

Thank you!

I did not meant junction, but junction point. Adding a junction point on the end of the road prevents wrong navigation when your not directly on that road ;-)

But good job putting in the the main roads!

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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby gamersea » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:47 am

omba_de wrote:I found the streets you've meant. They were in hochfügen. Right? I did those when I wasn't too much into map editing! Just changed them.
I'll try to add even more roads in fügen.

I'm not that often in fügen. So I have to do Maplayer editing. Which takes some time.
If you need anything special, just send me the permalink.

Yours,
Eric


Yeah, that's right! Good job!
I'll will look if I can find anything else:)

I did not yet checked the Austria wiki, but do you guys also add landmarks for parking places? Would be nice to have them added Fügen, not for myself, I know where they lay as the back of my hand. But for newcomers!

Are the gas prices getting updated already in your area? In the client. I thought Austria's price of benzine and diesel are around €1,40 per liter??

BTW, when I navigate with Waze too Fügen it says I'll be going over toll roads. Are those actually toll roads? Or do you give up all major roads up as toll road? Cause I know I have to get a vignet/ticket to be allowed to drive in Österreich.
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Not sure if you ever go to Salzburg, but I can't find the major parkinglots on the map. At the Austria.info website the map shows that they should be somewhere on the borders of the city center.
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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby gamersea » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:04 pm

GPSRitter wrote:Hi Wilco,

Parking lots are up to the area manager, but CM recommendation is to add them where it makes sense.

Gas prices are not yet in waze as we are still discussing with controlling authority to get access to their Gas pricing announcement system, to make it a bit easier, esp where not much wazers are around. In the meantime you can check prices on www.spritpreisrechner.at

regarding toll roads:
Only freeways (Autobahn & Autostraße) are toll roads (although there are some parts which are not tolled). But be aware that on some parts of the freeways you have to pay extra toll (like Arlbergtunnel or A9 between Leoben and Graz) and there are some privately serviced roads where toll is collected and are not freeways. I don't think we have put all of them in the database yet.
Nevertheless in Fügen Area you should be fine without extra tolling.
But Eric will be the local one that can comment better on that. :)

Have fun


Thanks for the link:) Oh I thought the feature was also activated already in Österreich.
About the toll ways, that's a bit tricky then. Cause if I navigate without going over toll roads I also won't be navigated over some freeways, right? What are the toll fees now-a-days? Cause I already pay around 80 euros just for the vignet/ticket.

Omba_de, thank you for adding the parking lots etc. Great!
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Re: AM Fugen/Kaltenbach

Postby gamersea » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:17 pm

Haha oke, then I know enough. I guess I won't be routed over those closed roads?

Thanks for the information!
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