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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby Darthreflon » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:01 am

I have the Samsung Moment from Sprint and I too have had many issues. I was running the stock 2.1 on it but recently rooted my phone. I still have an issue where my phone reboots but don't think it's due to Waze. Only sometimes. I still have some issues with navigation. Since I rooted my phone, Waze is a lot quicker. It used to take forever for the menu to come up or to zoom in or out. Now it's almost instantaneous. In my opinion, it's the stock android OS.

The only thing I was always curious about is why when I'm driving and my phone loses data connection due to an issue with the phone, not cuz I lost signal, is why does Waze stop tracking me with GPS? I'll get a target symbol around where my car on screen was and the car turns to an arrow. It's almost like it loses GPS signal also but I still have a good signal lock. Has anyone else had this happen to them?
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby tskramp » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:47 am

krankyd wrote:new beta version will come out any day now, and should resolve the issues with the stability on froyo and others.
The problem with swype is due to a problem with Swype, and not waze (confirmed by swype - the delete has a problem in other applications as well).
Next version will support native text box integration, and should resolve this issue as well.

From July 27th....I thought any day now meant within a week, maybe 2 if you really are pushing the expression...going on three weeks is definitely not any day though. it will be nice when it comes out, if it does anytime soon. sick of getting my phone rebooted.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby zottel » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:48 am

I have a Nexus One running Froyo, too, and I had reboots, too. Very frequently at times, quite seldomly lately.

This leads me to a new suspicion: I had reboots nearly all the time when it was so hot in Germany in June/July. When it became so much cooler, I suddenly didn't experience any reboots anymore. Then I got several reboots again last Wednesday, and guess what, it was the hottest day since weks.

Above all, the sun was shining quite fiercely when I drove home, and it seems to me that my phone gets heated up much more if the sun is shining directly at it through the windshield and/or the open roof.

So, my current theory is that the problem with reboots (maybe not with the force closes some seem to experience, but I've seen none) is not really a bug in waze's code but the fact that waze is the one app that heats up my phone most.

If it's quite hot in the car, the phone might overheat and either be rebooted by some security function in Android (though other means like the iPhone's "Please wait for the phone to cool down" would make more sense here) or be forced to reboot by some flipped-over bits in kernel memory or random outcomes of CPU calculations. If some bits run havoc within waze's memory, this might even explain force closes.

I guess it's more likely flipped bits than a security function as I sometimes had no reboots although the phone got so hot I could barely touch it while on other days it was only "rather hot" but there were reboots.

Still, I never experienced a reboot on those cloudy days when the car was not heated up when I drove home, nor did I ever get one when I drove to work in the morning, so I do suspect that heat is at least one of the problems here. My car being quite dark und thus very hot on sunny days might add to the problem.

Any similar experiences?

Best regards,

Christian
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby DAmaNIac » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:17 am

Hi,

as predicted Waze crashed several times over the weekend when in front just running or when you tried to touch a button. But it's definitely no heat problem, because several times I use various navigation software parallel like Waze, Google Navigation and Navigon. Only Waze will crash or reboot the phone even when you don't touch it. The worst part is, that it crashed as soon as soon as it had to load a new map tile. When you restart it, it tries to load this tiles again and crashed instantly. This goes on for at least 10 times, which becomes quite annoying. Now I just let in run in the background and don't touch it at all. If it crashes in the background I don't care anymore, because even for the parts I drove I still have no edit permissions after 4 days.
As for the heat problem, I just placed my phones so that a constant flow of cool air from the air conditioning will keep the phone at a cool temperature.

So, now I have 500 kms of streets I can't edit perfectly because of the lack of constant permission. I wonder how many points one must have to be allowed a little more permissions?!
It's just frustrating!!! If Waze pays my gas bill I will gladly just drive around all day, but I don't drive around just so maybe Waze will give me edit permissions on the 4th or 5th run... no way.

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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby grebble » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:00 pm

OK guys, I managed to get a response from someone from Waze on Twitter. Still no definite time frame on the new version, BUT they said they are still having problems with crashing that they're trying to sort out. So that's why 'any day now' has been three weeks so far. The crashing's giving them a nightmare too! :)

That might not be the news that everyone wants to hear, but it does seem as if they're taking the problem seriously at last.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby rcocchiararo » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:29 pm

zottel wrote:I have a Nexus One running Froyo, too, and I had reboots, too. Very frequently at times, quite seldomly lately.

This leads me to a new suspicion: I had reboots nearly all the time when it was so hot in Germany in June/July. When it became so much cooler, I suddenly didn't experience any reboots anymore. Then I got several reboots again last Wednesday, and guess what, it was the hottest day since weks.

Above all, the sun was shining quite fiercely when I drove home, and it seems to me that my phone gets heated up much more if the sun is shining directly at it through the windshield and/or the open roof.

So, my current theory is that the problem with reboots (maybe not with the force closes some seem to experience, but I've seen none) is not really a bug in waze's code but the fact that waze is the one app that heats up my phone most.

If it's quite hot in the car, the phone might overheat and either be rebooted by some security function in Android (though other means like the iPhone's "Please wait for the phone to cool down" would make more sense here) or be forced to reboot by some flipped-over bits in kernel memory or random outcomes of CPU calculations. If some bits run havoc within waze's memory, this might even explain force closes.

I guess it's more likely flipped bits than a security function as I sometimes had no reboots although the phone got so hot I could barely touch it while on other days it was only "rather hot" but there were reboots.

Still, I never experienced a reboot on those cloudy days when the car was not heated up when I drove home, nor did I ever get one when I drove to work in the morning, so I do suspect that heat is at least one of the problems here. My car being quite dark und thus very hot on sunny days might add to the problem.

Any similar experiences?

Best regards,

Christian


well, i do charge my phone while driving, but my motorola milestone with 2.1 was at least 10c hotter than my nexus, all the time, and it worked much better on waze.

Then again, it WINTER here in Argentina, and i think its the coldest winter i can remember, so, no, no hot days, many nexus one with 2.2 reboots.

Also, i tried running google navigation for the same travel distances that rebooted waze many times, with no issues.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby rcocchiararo » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:33 pm

damaniac wrote:Hi,

as predicted Waze crashed several times over the weekend when in front just running or when you tried to touch a button. But it's definitely no heat problem, because several times I use various navigation software parallel like Waze, Google Navigation and Navigon. Only Waze will crash or reboot the phone even when you don't touch it. The worst part is, that it crashed as soon as soon as it had to load a new map tile. When you restart it, it tries to load this tiles again and crashed instantly. This goes on for at least 10 times, which becomes quite annoying. Now I just let in run in the background and don't touch it at all. If it crashes in the background I don't care anymore, because even for the parts I drove I still have no edit permissions after 4 days.
As for the heat problem, I just placed my phones so that a constant flow of cool air from the air conditioning will keep the phone at a cool temperature.

So, now I have 500 kms of streets I can't edit perfectly because of the lack of constant permission. I wonder how many points one must have to be allowed a little more permissions?!
It's just frustrating!!! If Waze pays my gas bill I will gladly just drive around all day, but I don't drive around just so maybe Waze will give me edit permissions on the 4th or 5th run... no way.

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I think that you can only instantly edit a road YOU made with the mapping tool in waze or in cartouche.

Roads or stuff from other people have to be supervised by area managers, and i have NO idea how to become an area manager, but im still waiting for Area managers in Argentina to accept so many of my modifications :/
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby DAmaNIac » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:36 pm

I am an area manager currently and I also used to edit the streets I drive in other areas, although it's kind of difficult if you don't have all the rights. However now I don't have the right to edit the streets from last weekend, although cartouche can show me that I drove there a few days ago.
So it may be just another problems somewhere in the waze universe, however it adds up the annoyance factor of this...
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby tskramp » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:51 pm

rcocchiararo wrote:i have NO idea how to become an area manager, but im still waiting for Area managers in Argentina to accept so many of my modifications :/

To become an area manager just send an email to alpha@waze.com with a permalink to the area you wish to be a area manager for and you'll get a response usually fairly quickly letting you know they did it.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby gerben » Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:24 pm

damaniac wrote:I am an area manager currently and I also used to edit the streets I drive in other areas, although it's kind of difficult if you don't have all the rights. However now I don't have the right to edit the streets from last weekend, although cartouche can show me that I drove there a few days ago.
So it may be just another problems somewhere in the waze universe, however it adds up the annoyance factor of this...


I guess this is the cause:

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