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Question about cities

Post by MladenT90
Hello guys,

i have one small question about how we should fill "city" form for segments in Qatar.

I know that Qatar is still a "young" country for editings and there are no special rules for Qatar but if i look the general rules from other countries in my opinion there is a bit of confusion on how they are filled now.

I don`t consider myself like an expert editor so this is just my personal opinion for a discussion with other people that are more expert about editing and Qatar country.

Let`s take for an example this image:

Like it`s now you can see there are few roads with the city name "Mesaieed"(dark blue boundaries) and a lot of them are with the city name of "Al Wakrah"(transparent black boundaries)......this for me is completly wrong because the city name should be used only inside the city boundaries(signs like "Welcome to -city name-" is where a city start for example).

Outside of Mesaieed city there is no other cities until Al Wakrah(20 km more or less for Mesaieed) and all those road in between should have a "No city name" field in my opinion.

I understand that Al Wakrah is a Municipality and Mesaieed only a district of Al Wakrah but this doesn't mean that Mesaieed is not a city.

Let's consider that i dont' know where is Al Wakrah but i need to go there....i`m driving from the south and when i'm in Mesaieed, on Waze i already see that i'm in Al Wakrah also if i`m 20km far from it.....it can be a very misleading.

In my opinion google maps can be a good reference to decide city boundaries also for waze.
Taking for example these 3 images you can see how the city change(Al Wakrah, no city and in the last one Mesaieed).


For now i`m checking the map around al wakrah and mesaieed since i`m working in between and i edit a lot there....i didn`t check too much in other part of Qatar but also a lot of Dukhan Highway should be without a city just to make another example that i saw personally.

Last example:
let`s consider Dukhan city( one is pretty good with the roads inside the city with the name of the city and the highways outside without any name.....it still need to remove the city name from some of them(red line in the image more or less) but also in other part of qatar it should be the same.

Let me know what you think about it :D


edit.
After i wrote all the post i discoverd that in google maps you can see the boundaries of each city like here or here or here etcccc
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Post by Arnoniem
Hi !
I've read your suggestions and you're right about a lot of points. Most important thing is there should be a standard set for all names. And this needs to be documented in wiki/wazeopedia of Qatar.

Haven't had time to write a detailed review or proposal.
Just be careful with using other sources. Most are copywrited!

If you're interested we have opened a Qatar channel in the uae slack to be able to chat and learn from other editors.
You can sign up using the link in the slack post on uae waze forum section.

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Post by Arnoniem
MladenT90 wrote:The problem is that there is no wiki/wazeopedia for Qatar and it can take some time to make something like that.
That's the main problem we should work on ;)
https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/Qatar/Main_Page
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Post by MladenT90
No answers?

After researching, a bit more, especially in my country my suggestions should be to decide one way to input the city name of the segments.

First we need a list of all municipality and that's pretty easy(https://www.citypopulation.de/Qatar.html)

After that someone more familiar to Qatar should make a list of all cities( like i said on the first post google map can be a nice help for this thing if there is no available list with all of them in another qatar website).
In my country all small districts have also a different city name that can distinguish them from the other districts.
For example, https://www.google.com.qa/maps/place/Al ... d51.539982, https://www.google.com.qa/maps/place/Al ... 51.4913589 are districts and all those small districts in Doha should be distinguished with a different city name.

Of course i`m talking after taking for example my country but in Qatar it can be different and that`s why some people that are living here and that are expert about Qatar should decide which districts should be distinguished and which not.

Since they are all in Doha municipality the city name should be (Al Ghanim, Doha), (Al Sadd, Doha) and taking for example my first post and Mesaieed the correct city name should be (Mesaieed, Al Wakrah).

This is valid only for residential areas of course, while for the other areas there should be no city name on the segments.
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Post by MladenT90
Arnoniem wrote:Hi !
I've read your suggestions and you're right about a lot of points. Most important thing is there should be a standard set for all names. And this needs to be documented in wiki/wazeopedia of Qatar.

Haven't had time to write a detailed review or proposal.
Just be careful with using other sources. Most are copywrited!

If you're interested we have opened a Qatar channel in the uae slack to be able to chat and learn from other editors.
You can sign up using the link in the slack post on uae waze forum section.

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The problem is that there is no wiki/wazeopedia for Qatar and it can take some time to make something like that.

Would be nice to have a faster decision from someone more expert so i can edit the part of Qatar that i`m currently following.

Maybe for districts around Doha that are really small it`s possible to wait.....while for the other i think we can follow what i suggested in the second post.

1)No city name outside of residential area;
2)For residential areas: District name, Municipality Name or just District name following more or less boundaries from google maps if there is no other evidence of the limit of the city area(for mesaieed we have this https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/95/248365 ... z.jpg?zz=1 and it`s 400-500 meters different from google maps boundary).

ps.i joined the channel of uae so maybe we can see better in chat :)
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