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A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:38 am

Is it pronounced "you ess route nine double-u" by locals?
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Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby weeezer14 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:58 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Is it pronounced "you ess route nine double-u" by locals?

As a semi-local (always lived south of the GWB), I always heard "nine double-u", but I am not sure what people in the Hudson Valley would say.
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Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby PhantomSoul » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:50 pm

In New Jersey, people often call any road with a shield-style marker by just its number, since we don't really have any overlap between Interstate, US, state, and county routes. So US-1 is refered to as just 1. State Rtes 27 or 35 are just called 27 or 35 - like we'll actually say "Take 35 to the Neptune Circle..." The only exceptions that I know of are the county routes in Bergen and Monmouth Counties, both of which have not migrated their county route networks to the state standard of using numbers 600 and up, but most people in those 2 counties don't really know or refer to those roads by their county route number anyway.

To avoid such potential overlaps, when a new federal route is commissioned, the state has always recommissioned any other state route with the same number to another number to alleviate any possible confusion.

New Jersey also no longer uses letter suffixes on spur, loop, or other alternate routes, instead opting for word-based modifiers like "Alt" or "Bus" or "Spur". However, since US-9W is a federal highway, its name has to conform to federal standards, which do sometimes use letter suffixes to mark loop routes, I guess based on whether the local area does that. Since US-9W is located mostly in New York, which is notorious in its use of letter suffixes, we're stuck with it as well in the 10 miles of it that we have in NJ.
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Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby Wajo357 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:44 pm

140) Left turn to Henry St should be restricted:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=8&lat ... s=66218681

141) Ramp segment needs to be update. It looks like there is now a split that can turn left (UR was turning left):
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=8&lat ... s=32145291

142) These 2 segments should probably be ramps with their node locations fixed up a bit.
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Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby weeezer14 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:52 am

140.) Restricted.

141.) Allowed.

142.) Segments should remain freeway, BUT they should have wayfinder segments leading to them so people are told where they need to go. West bound was easy. East bound I am staring at because of how close exit 48 is. I'll have to think about that.

BTW, in the general area not all ramps have been updated for Triboro to RFK.

And anyone know how Waze would say "RFK"?
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Re: Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby ncc1701v » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:06 am

WeeeZer14 wrote:And anyone know how Waze would say "RFK"?

I don't remember it saying anything strange on Sunday, so it probably did it right.

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Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby Wajo357 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:09 am

WeeeZer14 wrote:140.) Restricted.

141.) Allowed.

142.) Segments should remain freeway, BUT they should have wayfinder segments leading to them so people are told where they need to go. West bound was easy. East bound I am staring at because of how close exit 48 is. I'll have to think about that.

BTW, in the general area not all ramps have been updated for Triboro to RFK.

And anyone know how Waze would say "RFK"?


thanks!

I recall someone writing "R F K" and I believe I did just that for some other naming conventions. I'm sure the voice will try to pronounce RFK and either periods or spaces should be used to space out the letters.
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Re: Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby ncc1701v » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:11 am

WeeeZer14 wrote:142.) Segments should remain freeway, BUT they should have wayfinder segments leading to them so people are told where they need to go. West bound was easy. East bound I am staring at because of how close exit 48 is. I'll have to think about that.

How about pulling the exit 48 ramp split back to before the freeway split?


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Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby weeezer14 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:23 am

The ramp from 87 had "R.F.K. Brg" so I just matched that.

- If we move Exit 48 earlier, it is "too" early and I don't know how well a junction with 3 exit paths works.
- If we extend 278 up to Exit 48, we make the exit for 87 too late.
- If we make the split with Exit 47 into an unnamed segment leading to Exit 48 and the continuation on 278, Exit 48 performs well, but continuation on 278 would be a right/left combo instead of just a "right".

I can rig some parallel segments of 278, but that just asks for someone to come and "fix" it. But that may be the best course. :(
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Re: A bunch of requests... NY/NJ area

Postby Wajo357 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:25 am

WeeeZer14 wrote:The ramp from 87 had "R.F.K. Brg" so I just matched that.

- If we move Exit 48 earlier, it is "too" early and I don't know how well a junction with 3 exit paths works.
- If we extend 278 up to Exit 48, we make the exit for 87 too late.
- If we make the split with Exit 47 into an unnamed segment leading to Exit 48 and the continuation on 278, Exit 48 performs well, but continuation on 278 would be a right/left combo instead of just a "right".

I can rig some parallel segments of 278, but that just asks for someone to come and "fix" it. But that may be the best course. :(


I think your best options is the one bolded above. Waze will give enough warning of the "Exit Left THEN Exit Right" that the driver should know what to do.
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