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CBenson wrote:

Wajo357 wrote: -I just navigated to my parents from Wayne, NJ to Brooklyn, NY and it told me to go through the Lincoln, even though I had avoid tolls on. Interesting. Although I did clean it up a few days ago by removing the segments after the toll booth from having the 'toll' option on. Maybe the fact that there were only 2 small toll segments associated with this drive that had to do with something.

The current problem with avoid toll roads is that when you have avoid toll roads set, waze prefers to route you the wrong way through non-toll one-way outbound segments, rather than toll inbound segments. This is what is happening at the Lincoln Tunnel. Waze is routing through non-toll segments the wrong way into Manhattan over segments like these.

orbitc wrote:

CBenson wrote:

Wajo357 wrote: -I just navigated to my parents from Wayne, NJ to Brooklyn, NY and it told me to go through the Lincoln, even though I had avoid tolls on. Interesting. Although I did clean it up a few days ago by removing the segments after the toll booth from having the 'toll' option on. Maybe the fact that there were only 2 small toll segments associated with this drive that had to do with something.

The current problem with avoid toll roads is that when you have avoid toll roads set, waze prefers to route you the wrong way through non-toll one-way outbound segments, rather than toll inbound segments. This is what is happening at the Lincoln Tunnel. Waze is routing through non-toll segments the wrong way into Manhattan over segments like these.

I think, this needs to addressed. That would be very dangerous, in most other circumstances. I'm guessing that something needs to be change in the algorithm that forces waze to choose the wrong way when no toll road option is enabled.

orbitc wrote:

Wajo357 wrote:

orbitc wrote:I would agree that one time penalty for the toll road rather than adding them up. I too cannot back that up. Perhaps. there could be other factors that made Waze chose that route.

Ok... so I figured out a way to play around with this behavior - but it means screwing around with my block. Since my block isn't a thru street at either end, I figure there isn't much risk in it.

My plan:

1) Test 1 - Flag both segments on my street (broken up by my waze voice test segment) as a Toll. Typically the shortest route directs me up the block with the longer of the 2 segments. So this will test to see if the length of a toll segment affects the system - if it routes me to go around the block through the shorter segment.

2) Test 2 - If it doesn't route thru the shorter segment, I'll break up the longer one into 3 smaller segments and see if that forces me to go around the block to only drive through the 1 toll segment instead of 3.

How does that sound?

Yet, another test...sounds good by me. Please let me know your findings.

CBenson wrote:

orbitc wrote:I think, this needs to addressed. That would be very dangerous, in most other circumstances. I'm guessing that something needs to be change in the algorithm that forces waze to choose the wrong way when no toll road option is enabled.

I totally agree. The issue was presented to waze almost as soon as the avoid toll roads option went live. But as you can see, it hasn't been solved yet.

CBenson wrote:

Wajo357 wrote:Well... this can be mitigated by reducing the number of toll segments. Who has the guts to change the wiki?

I'm not seeing how the reducing the number of toll segments mitigates the wrong-way over one-way segments problem.

CBenson wrote: But the problem, like at the Linclon Tunne,l is that waze is finding a route without any segments marked as toll. As there is only a toll eastbound through the tunnel, waze will route eastward over the non-toll westbound lanes. As there will always be at least one toll segment for the proper eastbound routes, waze will continue to route eastward over the westbound lanes if you have avoid toll roads selected.

orbitc wrote:Here is my Voice Test for the following:

Exit 70 N-S / Exit 80 N - S / Ave "S" / Ave 'S'

Exit 70 N-S: Exit 70 enn ess
Exit 80 N - S: Exit 80 North South
Ave "S": Avenue ess
Ave 'S': Avenue ess (same as above)