[Level 2] Wrong side house number

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[Level 2] Wrong side house number

Postby Scooby091369 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:58 am

Small street near me has five houses, all are even house numbers.
The two on the left will not allow me to (force) enter them correctly.

https://www.waze.com/en-US/editor?env=u ... =518507135

Street view
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5831583 ... 384!8i8192

Correct house numbers
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5cb4hfxvs1wph ... e.png?dl=0
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Re: [Level 2] Wrong side house number

Postby dude463 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:03 am

Hey Scooby, that street is a shared driveway or private road and not actually 224th Pl. I'm going to advise you to remove the addresses from the segment completely then add Residential Point Places in their place. You can do this as a level 1. https://wazeopedia.waze.com/wiki/USA/Places#Creation I've done the first one for you as an example. Let me know if you need help with this. https://www.waze.com/en-US/editor?env=u ... 14.6975254

After the address numbers are removed from the segment itself we should remove the name from the segment and change it to Private Road to prevent Waze from trying to use it for the occasional U-turn.

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Re: [Level 2] Wrong side house number

Postby MaxKuenkel » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:21 am

I'm fairly new here, so let's see what the experts have to say.

I see that the small street (that the houses are on) is an extension of 224th Pl SE: that's what the map says. But:

The fact that the house numbers are all even numbers, despite being on both sides of the street, is an irregularity. It means that the function of the street changes (I mean the small street that the houses are on). It can't be a "normal" street, because then the even numbers would be on one side, and the odd numbers on the other side. Since the house numbers are all even, the reference street (for that) is not the small street that they're on, it is the larger street, the larger 224th Pl SE: the houses are all on the same side of THAT street. Which means that the smaller street should NOT be called 224th Pl SE (regardless of what the maps says). I think the smaller street should be called parking lot road or private road, with no name, in Sammamish, Washington. Maybe then, it will let you add the house numbers? And if that doesn't work, maybe a RPP for each house is needed here.
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Re: [Level 2] Wrong side house number

Postby Scooby091369 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:41 am

Sorry for the newbie mistake, it seemed like it was going to be an easy one for my first edit...

Just so I am clear, what's the difference between a private road, shared driveway and a cul-de-sac?
This example has a clear street sign naming it 224th PL SE
Is it no easy place to turn around? or no odd house numbers?
I'm confused, as I know people that live here, when I address a Christmas card it is addressed:
"Friends of me, 1234 224th PL SE, Sammamish, WA 98075"
The two houses adjacent to this group of 5 ARE on a shared driveway marked "Private Road"
Google Street View
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5822765 ... 384!8i8192

Then to confuse me even more, the next adjacent street (226th PL SE) NOT to be confused with 226th AVE SE, sometimes I hate WA street names :) is a cul-de-sac combo with a private/shared drive, YET it appears to have house numbers assigned, not RPP's

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: [Level 2] Wrong side house number

Postby dude463 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:27 am

Just so I am clear, what's the difference between a private road, shared driveway and a cul-de-sac?

Private Road is what you can set the segment to in WME. Usually you would set a shared driveway to Private Road (PR). A Cul-de-sac is just a dead end street in Waze. It can be a Local Street, or PR, or PLR (Parking Lot Road). Speaking of Cul-de-sac's we don't put a roundabout at the end of one, the system will just automatically add a U-turn at the end of the segment.

This example has a clear street sign naming it 224th PL SE

On street view I do see the sign that you're referencing. According to the county GIS it's not actually a signed road. The homeowners must have added the sign themselves. The big giveaway to that is the sign stating all of the addresses down that road.
https://gismaps.kingcounty.gov/parcelvi ... 6648670070

Is it no easy place to turn around? or no odd house numbers?

It's not that it's easy or hard to turn around, it's that it's not a public road. Or rather appears to not be a public road. Waze wouldn't try to use it as a U-turn unless it really needed to and that would likely not be that often. The reason why no odd house numbers is because all of these houses are technically on the same side of the road and typically they don't mix even and odd numbers on the same side of the road.

Then to confuse me even more, the next adjacent street (226th PL SE) NOT to be confused with 226th AVE SE, sometimes I hate WA street names :) is a cul-de-sac combo with a private/shared drive, YET it appears to have house numbers assigned, not RPP's

It's not uncommon to have a cul-de-sac off a through road named with the same number as the through road but the suffix will be Place or Court or something a little off of what the main road is. If you really want to get confused there's spots in this state where developers subdivided in between numbered roads. So you'll get 12th Ave, then 12th Ave Ct, then 13th Ave, 13th Ave Ct, etc... They just add Ct to the suffix in between the Aves.

RPPs are used primarily to get a driver to a segment that's not the named segment. A good example is your local mall with multiple addresses. Adding RPPs for those addresses leads the driver to the correct location in the parking lot. When you add House Numbers the system will always end on the street it's named for.

I hope this helps.
Hey, do you want to join our discord group? We use it to chat real time.
https://discord.me/wazenwr

Thanks
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